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21/04/2017 at 18:48 #17881
atreestump
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As philosophy is all about the inquiry of what is true and meaningful, virtuous and beautiful, I thought we could start a few threads asking these simple questions, starting with Truth.

What is truth to you? Is there absolute truth? Is truth just something we believe is there, but isn’t, kind of like the arguments for free will? It’s a necessary illusion to get out of bed in the morning, but ‘Truth’ is a necessary preposition that we search for in order to begin inquiry. Is Truth an outdated concept, a hang up from religion?
21/04/2017 at 19:41 #19032
kFoyauextlH
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The reality is the truth and it is made of lies (things that were not and will not be, the transient), the only Truth is Truth itself, the Ultimate Reality, which is stable instability, constrained freedom, timeless temporality, or paradox or seeming contradictions combined such as What is like Nothing but is Not Nothing generating everything and destroying it from no place and everything as actually like nothing in another sense.

This can all be simplified to God or Allah being the single word answer, or practically any word or sound, since what is Real is all there is, there is no such thing as really unreal. People get mixed up with distinguishing words, but Meaning itself is always present no matter what they say or think, Meaning Itself is what we actively see and experience.
21/04/2017 at 20:39 #18994
atreestump
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People get mixed up with distinguishing words, but Meaning itself is always present no matter what they say or think, Meaning Itself is what we actively see and experience.

Do you mean that meaning is there before interpretation?
22/04/2017 at 00:17 #19007
kFoyauextlH
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I wrote about this just now in another thread.

What is experienced has no existence as is prior to being experienced, when it is experienced it is part of a full package, it isn’t that there is an object which is then interpreted, but an experience including what one calls an object and one calls an interpretation which is all part of a frame of information altogether.

The meaning, the affect, the object, are all together if they are experienced as such, and none can dispute the matter as they have no access to it or any part of it at all.

For your eyes only.
22/04/2017 at 23:45 #18998
thetrizzard
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Each moment, just as it is, is the sudden manifestation of absolute truth.
23/04/2017 at 03:00 #19008
kFoyauextlH
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Very nice. Now the question arises if we really believe that and how we really believe that and how we might not really believe that.

For me the truth is in between the moment somewhere, that its in the doubt, much more than it is in the features or the images or the blackness when the eyes are shut. Even beyond the force of things, in that flash of disbelief.
23/04/2017 at 09:24 #19000
Rubsy
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Each moment, just as it is, is the sudden manifestation of absolute truth.

My perceptions are all true as they are in the moment even if they are contrary to anothers perception ?
23/04/2017 at 09:53 #18999
thetrizzard
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Absolute Truth and Relative Truth are two sides of the same moment
23/04/2017 at 12:05 #18995
atreestump
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Realism and relativism are both wrong in trying to determine which is true and the other wrong.
23/04/2017 at 16:26 #19009
kFoyauextlH
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Yeah. I hope no one thinks I mentioned either of those really.
23/04/2017 at 20:43 #18997
Whisper
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This philosophical discussion has greater implications to me and my personal identity crisis. I’ve been radicalized by the compromising of my own vision by others.
24/04/2017 at 09:15 #19010
kFoyauextlH
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Awesome, I am really pleased to hear when people are really thinking and evolving.
24/04/2017 at 19:38 #19001
Rubsy
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Absolute Truth and Relative Truth are two sides of the same moment

I agree, but truth is in a way a higher ideal, it is like art, something you point to. 🙂
24/04/2017 at 19:56 #19014
kFoyauextlH
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Which is why for me the Truth is just a synonym for God or Power or Action, everything else being truth coming from Lies and returned to Lies.

If one becomes overly absorbed by the finger, they might neglect what it points at and always points at no matter where it points.
24/04/2017 at 20:03 #18996
atreestump
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Though the finger points at the moon,
the moon is not in the finger,
Words express the truth, but the
truth is not in the words.
–Chinul
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