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30/04/2017 at 00:53 #17901
What do these two terms mean to you? What is preferable and why? People often mix complexity with confusion and simplicity with ease.
Sometimes complexity is taken as a reference to or indication of sophistication and advanced intelligence, in other cases with madness.
As for simplicity, some conflate it with stupidity or naivety.
I don’t think a choice really has to be made regarding these terms or their uses, but there is a general idea of simplicity moving towards complexity, complexity refining back to simplicity.
Simplicity can also be associated with boredom, complexity with mental stimulation or simply more, more to do, more to think about, more to say.
Simplicity is often considered an Underlying element, where complexity tends to be considered a mask or topical agent that covers or is on top or in front of simplicity.
I am constantly working towards simplifying things in order to be able to remember them or have a system for acquiring the information again.
I even get annoyed when lists are too long. Its as if I am commenting items or toys and it just becomes overwhelming and I can’t seem to give a satisfying amount of attention to all, and so have to make choices and prefer and turn towards some of particular interest more than others.
The human tendency seems to fluctuate between a desire to create lists, and in the process of doing so, going too far, and then wanting to refine and limit or eliminate those lists.
30/04/2017 at 08:28 #19112Simplicity is best thought of in terms of the Quakers, simplify your life so you can focus on important things.
Complexity in my mind, brings forth images of termite mounds, emergence and ant colonies above 25 ants.
30/04/2017 at 22:02 #19118once someone said to me that ‘their’ interest lies in elitist ways. this made me think about what elitist is. for me when i think about that word i connect that with politics, with people who think high of themselves, people who are in ahh with etiquette.
for me all these things stand for complexity, but when i look at the people who live that way i see the simple….
30/04/2017 at 22:33 #19123Both of these words and concepts mean almost nothing to me when I look at them for too long. I only care about which is sharper to attack life with or more hurtful to slap a face with.
like Elitists for example just makes me thing of biting hard into a neck with no relenting. It isn’t even that I hate elitists, I am just hungry and possibly insane, and there is something about biting the neck of elitists until they are dead that pleases the lionhearted.
I think it means something really profound though. I think as a lion I sense that the gazelle will not help me, so that all I can get from them in way of help is by devouring their person for their resources.
We are alienated from what we eat, our food source, and so to get money and power, which the elitists have become symbols of, we have to seize it if we can, holding tight until they are no longer able to resist our taking of their resources.
This is why the people are threats, and elitists used to go lion hunting.
So that was an example of a strange thought with a simple meaning.
The complex is often obscure and organic, like the symbol of a man-lion biting the neck of an elitist, but when explained the symbol can appear as a simple way to describe something which would take many more words, even though it couldn’t be understood just as a symbol.
30/04/2017 at 22:53 #19122Mathematically and formally speaking: Abstract ways to model massive and oftentimes complicated sets of data. It is not simple to understand or discover these methods, but once discovered they simplify everything.
Musically speaking: The more complicated the better. I consider minimalism a complicated idea still and multi faceted. Yet I pursued utter simplicity for the longest time in what I produced. I was inspired by doped up drug addicts, whose music’s was in a mindless raw trance-like form. They were considered generally untalented, yet I esteemed them as the highest form of artistry for a while.
Art is a category which I can’t even make distinctions from my experience. My style is kind of impressionistic and realistic. I feel where the light exists, and I can do portraiture just from my intuitions completely.
30/04/2017 at 23:15 #19116That is awesome, I’d love to see some stuff you make put up on this website along with any explanations of it.
01/05/2017 at 07:48 #19113
once someone said to me that ‘their’ interest lies in elitist ways. this made me think about what elitist is. for me when i think about that word i connect that with politics, with people who think high of themselves, people who are in ahh with etiquette.for me all these things stand for complexity, but when i look at the people who live that way i see the simple….
Elitism can also be used in a less negative sense as simply ‘secrecy’. Simplicity is clarity, secrecy is solitude (being alone, away from etc) and out of this simplicity, complexity can emerge.
01/05/2017 at 09:46 #19117I had wanted to post this earlier but here is a good chance:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori
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Withdrawing from the world can be considered a kind of snobbishness.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HikikomoriWeird errors and refreshing, not sure if this posted. The perception of the withdrawn as elitist or snobs can also resemble the anger of the living towards loved ones who leave or commit suicide.
01/05/2017 at 10:10 #19114It can be considered snobbish, but sometimes we need space to rebuild.
01/05/2017 at 10:58 #19115Socrates and Diogenes, two Greek philosophers were all about simplicity – moreso Diogenes, who led a very ascetic life style. Asceticism is a practice whereby we deliberately abstain from things we desire and try to live with as few needs as possible, sometimes for purity, but mostly as a practice of humility.
01/05/2017 at 11:18 #19124I think people who think things are snobbish are annoying anyway. They are threatened by anything non-communal since it represents some sort of thing falling out of their range of access or influence in their social domain.
I likeithe idea of the recluse as a kind of new noble, but then again I don’t personally identify with someone who doesn’t share with people. It is hard for me to imagine satisfaction without expression, even though I am generally happiest alone and in my own thoughts and I’m greatly stressed by people.
There are certain communities and cultures which realty promote social contribution and cooperation and participation with the world system or society. In often hear things like “functioning member of society” “giving back to society” as high and noble goals.
I buy into it as well somewhat. Though I don’t view the escape artist too harshly, I want to escape too, but then again feel chained back by hellish Bodhisattva vows and wishing to do good and feeling responsible or guilty for not trying or leading people behind.
Plus, there isn’t really anywhere to go. Even though I make what I like, I surely wouldn’t make these things if there were no people around, there would be no reason to do it really at all, because then who cares?
Who cares even if I remember all this trash? So I still do all this because of people and for people, people I don’t even like or want.
I don’t think I could stomach not forcing myself into people. I think my whole life is about imposing myself into everything, irrelevant of political content, simply as a form of living so long as the content is self identifying for me as a spiritual vessel.
My life is about being like an infectious disease, a virus that only wants to live, not even knowing enjoyment of life or having a reason, see Rebel Without. A Cause ( my threads and posts are all winding and connected ).
I even lie about the truth mattering to me, in a sense, because I know people don’t understand what I even mean about the truth even though I tell them.
To me, Truth is only Violence, its Force. The Reality is what has Impact, what makes itself known through its undeniable substance of pressure and force.
So if I say the truth matters to me, what I really mean is shoving myself down peoples throats, making them suffer my existence one way or another, or finding ways to make them take the medicine.
I create unique forms or combinations which are secret representations of myself in order to inject them in people, I make them unpalatable and unique so that I know it is me they are taking in and not something else.I reject things which are too common, or seem to be the vessels of something else or used by others, which is what I mean when I say “I do not want to work for someone else”. That includes what people call God or Causes or Organizations or anything which isn’t Me shoving Me into people.
I don’t even need to accomplish it much but constantly do it as a form of life and living.
If there were no people around, I wonder what I’d do then, with the simple life. It is likely I would structure it to reflect me yet again.
People often don’t even perceive the narcissism behind their every desire and goal and action.
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