Written by Faust is perhaps my favorite play and story. I have uploaded the script to the ‘The Tragical Hisory of Docktor Faustus’ by Christopher Marlowe and also the Goethe version ‘Faust’ parts one and two.
I will be reading these texts soon and making threads about them.
Thank you very much. I relate lots and take the character of Mephistopheles quite personally.
There’s something very humane about Mephistopheles, that’s why I wanted to read the Goethe version, as Mephistopheles seems to be what Faust is destined to become and he feels compassion towards him.
Totally! It is an extremely important story for those interested in a number of things related to personal growth and healing.
Interesting take. I am still looking at it as a story of looking beyond for ‘more than’ without seeing what is right before your eyes here and now.
It is worthwhile to study the etymological origins of the word Mephistopheles and the development of the character historically and the whole pact thing as a literary meme throughout European history and its predecessors. You may even like to write a nice article collating that information.
Faust has many interesting aspects that are philosophical through and through.
The writing of the contract with the devil, with his own blood, is like the ego is a substance ‘in the blood’ that is spilled onto the page. Desires and drives are spelled out on the page with a time reference too, Faust becomes an abject/ reject and a project by defining his subjectivity in relation to Mephistopheles. Even though Faust has him at his service, Mephistopheles is more free than Faust.
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Here is something which can be related which might bring up some interesting points:
The idea is that there is God who puts forth a spirit and a soul and the soul and spirit are driving the man or object or vessel or body. The spirit often relates more to the mind and the soul often relates more to the life of a person, their overall life and so it is considered a passive interpretation as compared to the spirit which is used in language often to refer to the active mind. The soul meaning life which is culminated as corrupt through the wholeness of its activity is then put in hell or punishment as a reflection of that life, since the term relates to the life of a person as a whole, and selling the soul means ones life is dedicated to that spirit or agency of mind and ends up being taken when its culmination or term is complete.
To do the best that one can do.
@”Ontical”
Well i tried to down load the the docs but can’t, sounds interesting thowe.
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@”Ontical”
Well i tried to down load the the docs but can’t, sounds interesting thowe.
BY FOR NOW
What device are you on?
The links take you to a PDF on the site, which should have a download option as PDFs usually do when you visit them in a browser.
@”Ontical” Im on my labtop using Opera, when i click on the files a page dose open but it’s blank.
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Try these links:
http://www.iowagrandmaster.org/Books%20in%20pdf/Faust.pdf
https://mthoyibi.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/doctor-faustus_christopher-marlowe.pdf
The opening part of the Goethe one describes Goethe about to write down the poem, it describes his own experience of grasping the forms that haunt him which he tries to put down on paper. This is a strange literary device, as we are not actually reading the poem, we are back stage as it were. I think the next part is Goethe talking to some people backstage of the performance (which never happened for Goethe, he died before the play was performed).
Goethe spent his entire life writing this poem.
Again you show yourselves, you wavering Forms,
Revealed, as you once were, to clouded vision.
Shall I attempt to hold you fast once more?
Heart’s willing still to suffer that illusion?
@”thetrizzard” What do you make of this? An author placing himself inside the text, before the text ‘begins’ and Goethe most definitely is dead by the time others read it.