Eyes or hands?

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    Socrates
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      Many philosophers place an emphasis on the eyes, the cognitive function of sight, as the main way we think and get ideas, this tradition is most explicit in Plato and Descartes.

      Other philosophers, notably Heidegger, talk of hands as the main point of recognition, as we ‘grasp’ ideas and craft, that is to say ‘think’ with our hands. Hands can also reach for the other.

      Any thoughts on this? I suppose my question is, are there any other parts of the body that ‘think’?

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      atreestump
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        Yes, try thinking that body is thinking as a whole. A single unit…

        I see the body as entirely social, the body is made up of ‘dividuals’.
         

        I personally believe in the “gut” brain being the primary brain and our brain the secondary.

        Totally agree. It is a mistake to only think of mind/brain as being entirely in the head, we are awash with sensations and reactions throughout our entire body, reflexes and reactions.
         

        This is why I think some women inherently  feel that they are “higher” in authority  just because they can create life….

        Can you give me an example of who you are referring to? I don’t know if this is the case.
         

        This is a interesting notion that Heidegger had, and I think he was on to something…he just stopped thinking and made a decision too early….you need to keep going down the rabbit hole and reach the end.

        Well, this is just one particular aspect of Heidegger, he most certainly expanded on this and so did Derrida a few years later. What decision?

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          Many philosophers place an emphasis on the eyes, the cognitive function of sight, as the main way we think and get ideas, this tradition is most explicit in Plato and Descartes.

          Other philosophers, notably Heidegger, talk of hands as the main point of recognition, as we ‘grasp’ ideas and craft, that is to say ‘think’ with our hands. Hands can also reach for the other.

          Any thoughts on this? I suppose my question is, are there any other parts of the body that ‘think’?

          Yes, try thinking that body is thinking as a whole. A single unit…just like your able to type on the computer, while sitting down, while reading this, why probably tapping your foot…it goes on and on. I understand that people need to “focus” on one thing to really understand it…but the best way to understand something is to get the whole picture of it first and then break it down. This is the same for any idea….like what is the purpose of this conversation? Answer: to explore if there are any other parts of the body that ‘think’…that’s the purpose and everything that you can think of is the “right” answer. I personally believe in the “gut” brain being the primary brain and our brain the secondary. The “gut” feeling is primal…its source is embedded in us…this is why babies are born in the womb…its a symbol of life…a creation. the Mind can create but only the womb can house physical creation. This is why I think some women inherently  feel that they are “higher” in authority  just because they can create life….So the gut brain creates physical and the brain creates metaphorical. This is a interesting notion that Heidegger had, and I think he was on to something…he just stopped thinking and made a decision too early….you need to keep going down the rabbit hole and reach the end. But that is impossible right? its impossible to believe that you can come to any conclusion based on anything that is in this physical gut brain or the actual brain because eventually you need to make a decision.

          This is why I understand that people are wrong but are also right in their own way. I really see the end, like the end of the rabbit hole or the primordial spiral..its never ending but its like I can go further if I just thought one second ahead of every decision ever made. This makes me sound so arrogant…but its genuine belief.

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            Bumped thread due to relevance to current discussions. @”Intellectus”

            #18484
            atreestump
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              Corey on Wittgenstein- it’s not only the mind that thinks.

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