[kFoyauextlH]

The Qur’an does not teach terrorism but is the religion of Terror. The weight of the book can make a handy head slamming tool as well.

http://www.islamawakened.com/quran it is my favorite book in the whole world, standing above all other books genres and is the highest achievement in writing humanity has ever had. It combines everything into one book while in Arabic rhyming and following a rhythm and talking about every subject fluidly and honestly and without pretensions. It is full of layers of meaning and etymological depth. People running around shooting people can make up any reason or be blamed for any reason but the Qur’an is a book which has just by its existence around those who haven’t even read it, been involved in serious reactions. The book itself is magical and seems to speak directly to the reader and have constant new discoveries and change secretly or revealing more as if it is a living book and the true Necronomicon and its very likely what inspired such originally.

Its also a wonderful tool for testing and dividing and sorting people.

You can simply offer it to people and see how they take it or understand it or agree or disagree.

The book and I are one, I have no disagreements with it, consider it a divine gift and curse, consider it the prime text of Diabolism and truth, and the only book which very clearly says what I say word for word and is in perfect alignment with me.

The other religious texts also say what I say but this one doesn’t require sifting through and finding gems, its one amazing sentence after another, clear on the surface but with incredible depth and levels for most words in it and extremely precise while encompassing so much. The Bible is fully corrupt and obnoxious in comparison to it and has been wrongfully lauded while the Qur’an has been unjustly disparaged just like me.

Its message is wholly unpalatable to the desires of humanity in many senses, so it does not give people what they want, but does give them what it promises, Islam, which from its root slm can mean relief/healing/satiation/peace through acknowledgement of a surrendered state to the Truth/Reality (Al-Haqq) which is God/Allah/The One Power/Chaos/Like Nothing/Subhan alone, without partners or sharing or any causes or chains, but just always at every step Allah doing and making experienced all that is by us and there is nothing to say or do about it except to speak the truth and remind ourselves of the power and request whatever as it os Magic itself.

That encompasses the whole meaning plus idea of Islam.

People, even mentioned in the book itself which seems to depict contemporary attitudes, hated so much about Islam, most particularly the Fatalism and Determinism and total power of Allah in doing and making all things.

This becomes the easiest tool in sorting people, even sorting so-called Muslims between real Muslims.

So-called Muslims will be ignorant and tend towards modern ideas like Free Will and God being Omnibenevolent and in many ways imitate the Christians of today with their poor to ridiculous and embarassing apologetics.

One can simply ask if Allah determines every move and action and thought and deed a person does or thinks or if the person has a choice and a power of their own and can choose this or that and Allah does not choose but the person chooses and Allah follows after their decision and reacts to them so they cause Allah to do this or that and it is left to Chance if they do this or that.

Chance is still a name for God but they wouldn’t know that or think so.

Do if they choose Option A, that Allah controls every moment and all experience in every detail and there is no time or system except what Allah makes appear or seem to be, and they make an effort to be noble and just and merciful and worship throughout the day after cleansing themselves and are charitable and strive and compete in nobility, fear, and excellence, they are Muslims.

If they say God does not make evildoers evil and is not the creator of all things, and people choose and God is influenced by them, they are not speaking according to the Qur’an.

The corruption of Islam comes through collected tales written in Persia called the Hadiths. They are full of stupidity and most of the costume show that is called Islam today is just related to the Hadith which the Qur’an predicted and said would be a sorting device to take away a portion of people.

Islam was very Calvinist before John Calvin, and very much throughout history before Muhammed.

The other area of sorting besides the issue of choice and chance and free will and options is Fear and Evil.

If the questioned does not fear God or believe that God can freely without consequence or reason or justice do whatever and change whatever, they are saying that God is tied down by Justice or Love which were how pagans also named their Gods and powers. Allah is not bound to anything but makes the rules and can change them freely.

Finally, Allah as the source, cause, agent, and actor behind everything, both good and evil. The Qur’an clearly states and repeatedly states All is from God, the good and the evil even from within people. Anyone who claims otherwise and excludes evil is creating other sources and causes and comutting what in the Qur’an is the greatest error of shirk meaning sharing, as in sharing of power or misattribution of causation.

Finally, if the person says that Allah doesn’t know some information which exists, like that you know your experience but God knows it from the outside or another perspective or doesn’t know the feelings as you have felt them or doesn’t pry into bathrooms or see what people see from their eyes and in their hearts as in them, they have also defied the clear messages of the Qur’an and they do so because they even unadmittedly are imagining Allah wrongfully as a man or human figure who they deem would be perverse to be interested in these things. These are primitive and stupid notions and the Qur’an is clearly against such things.

There are very few true muslims known in the world anymore and practically no true Christians which would basically be a Muslim and a Jew and a Hindu and many other things because they were extremely similar or identical in the ancient past down to the cleansing practices and worship practices and motions.

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So you bring up the Quran to see how others receive it?

[kFoyauextlH]

Well kind of. I bring up the Qur’an out of compulsion and it appears to be a useful sorting device or in my case alienation device. I ate more of that crap and I am feeling sooo sick right now so this is your chance to ask me anything.

[Rubsy]

If we are talking of free will and determinism, as the Islamic God being totally deterministic , I find the inate question interesting and how we have evolved this in to a concept of the individual. It is interesting that the story of Robinson Crusoe about a man who is stranded on an Island creates his own economy and hierachy similar to one that  is already accepted. That it was down to what is practical through experience and therefore the correct model.  Perhaps this stems from a corrupting Persian story Hayys Ibn Yaqdhan.

[kFoyauextlH]

Its very possible but sometimes certain chains of thinking run through the language of cultures and may be of an underlying current in Indo-European thought which has many shared features in various cultures without direct access to certain manifestations.

The Qur’an is very clear cut about its theology to anyone who has honestly studied it without an agenda or desire for a certain outcome. The things many people say among modern Muslims differ largely from Ancient Muslims and even more so from the Qur’an itself. That is why I recvomend people learn about religions from me rather than the common lies presented in explanitory texts. The Qur’an also very blatantly speaks for itself and presents a completely fatalistic picture which is often misunderstood today by people who tend to foolishly reply “why do anything?” missing the point or the benefit entirely.
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Islam is a really curious religion. People mistake it by comparing it to other religions or trying to match it up to them and their frameworks and end up thus falsely attributing things to it which do not represent it.

For example, all religions tend to present a sort of cosmic battle between agents, whereas Islam is often wrongfully added to this stereotype, rejects such a notion entirely and does not fit into that mold. Buddhism has the human efforts against Mara, Vedic religion has various struggles as does Zoroastrianism. These struggles are viewed as real with real individual and opposing agents. Islam presents some of these struggles but in a completely different framework, where people are merely manifestations of words or lessons or ideas and there is no agent involved except Allah and no choices whatsoever. Even the contemporary people of the time the Qur’an is written seem to believe in choices and possibilities but this is entirely rejected, the only choices belong to the One Power who generates every instance of experience and can freely change it without anyone being made aware because they are literally nothing and nobody, completely ephemeral and false, moment to moment, only Allah is Realand The Real is one of Allah’s epithets.

​​​So there is no real struggle or effort, there is no way to win or lose, there is no fighting Mara or Devil to defeat or Death to overcome, there is no thought you can have or change of heart, there is only Allah and what Allah makes and does and Allah is literally like Nothing, we are Information Allah creates moment to moment or experience and Allah is non-information, so the opposite of what we are, which is Something that is Actually Nothing, whereas God is like Nothing but the only Thing truly, Action or Power itself or Chaos.

​​​​​​This is the hardest of all philosophies or religious ideas for people to swallow or tolerate and leads to acknowledging complete Submission or Surrender which is the name of the religion. It is both beautiful and hideous, freeing but sorrowful  well.

There is no savior, there is no hope, there is no God even, but God and only God who is not like what people say or think of when they typically use the word nor apart from anything really as All are just a sheet being wriggled around by One.

This is why many people have an almost innate hatred for Islam, because they sense the insult, which only hurts because it is true, you are nothing and nobody, unimportant and expendable, existing only by the grace that God happened to make you and make you experience whatever it is you do or think you have, and just as easily can make you experience anything else, because God is the experiencer and you are just a story told or a fleeting lie or whim.

No religion spits in the face of everything like this, each offers hope, tells people they matter, tells people they can win the game, tells people that they stand a chance. Islam alone is the truest Anti-religion, says God is evil and you are just happy if God makes you so but are generally unlucky and the wisest or most knowing only shudder in fear and disgust just as the angels are hopeless and defeated.

Its all in there. http://www.islamawakened.com/quran
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Buddhism, Jainism, Popular Christianity, Popular Judaism, and Popular Islam, as well as Popular Hinduism and Popular Atheism, Wicca, New Age Religions, Modern Satanism and Modern Luciferianism, Theosophy, Spiritism, whatever at all, Neo Paganism, all of it, if you study the language and notions involved, has a message opposite the Qur’anic message. Each one rejects fatalism, rejects aimless slavery, believes in a genuine fight with genuine agents and alternatives and varied paths, and ability to win or lose based on effort and actions that are decided upon and optional.

If you do this, then this, but you don’t have to do it, you could do this instead. Which is Islam may appear but is repeatedly rejected as an ultimate reality and is only a facade or appearance, all choice from feelings to thoughts to reactions is Allah doing it and making it so. No one achieves anything and it is all stemming from the unconditioned will and power that is Allah or Ultimate Chaos which can make up whatever freely and does, so is intrinsically arbitrary or absurd in its details and all messages only say Allah and refer to Allah and tell creation they are creation and powerless to move in any way and don’t even have credit for their thoughts or handiwork, they are just made up from Scratch and then Scratched out moment to moment as a new moment or frame of experience is generated and the other is no more as it seemed or appeared to be.

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