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Here is a copy on Derrida from the Routledge Critical Thinkers Series, I haven’t read it myself, but it’s supposed to be an excellent introduction for those new to Derrida. Who wants to read it with me?

I have opened up a new sub-forum here for reading groups. I am the moderator for now. Please feel free to join, just let us all know if you are joining in and we will bring yu up to speed on page numbers etc.

[thetrizzard]

I’ve just e-mailed you a better copy with some other PDF’s, for those that have already downloaded it and are keen to join with reading this book, I’d re-download it once admin upload the better version

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[atreestump]

Thanks. Will do it when I get to my PC. Can’t figure out how to upload files from iPhone.
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I already read the preface, the bit about undecidability when responding and how decision should be considered a passion makes more sense of the opening of David Woods book, specifically the Aporia of duty/response vs non-response.

Okay, I’m on chapter 4, going to stop for today and wait until you say where you are.

[Whisper]

I want to give it a read. It’s about time I understand Derrida. Tell me when you’ve re-uploaded.

[atreestump]

I will be uploading it shortly.
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Here is the updated PDF.

@”Princess”

[thetrizzard]

Chapter One ….. slow down, be patient….very good advice for anyone wanting to understand Derrida

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Yeah, I liked that bit. So far it all sounds like a practice of mindfulness. I will re-read in order to take it in more, that’s what I usually read like.

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Each chapter in the book will constitute a preface of sorts: with luck it should be possible for the reader to pick up the book and start from more or less any chapter. This, I hope, will accord with the logic, just mentioned, of a ‘strategy without finality’.

This made me think of Nietzsche’s style, especially in works like BGE and TSZ and GS.

[thetrizzard]

Nietzsche’s style (which was anti-systematic) heavily influences Derrida’s project, I think Royle is trying to demonstrate Derrida’s thinking by adopting this strategy

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Taking a step back, I recall coming up with a quote in that book I wrote on communication and the new age –

Urgency delays agency

Anyway, that aside, I think one of the ways in for me, is to relate Derrida to Nietzsche, I get an inkling of his flow style, lots of flux, like the text is in some sense ‘alive’ and working on me, demanding my input.

Another part of this chapter that took my interest was the bit about how death is central to life, death is not something after life and that life is other to itself, namely death. This reminds me of Heidegger – Sorge, or Care, is all about the Being-toward-death, that is what constitutes human existence.

[thetrizzard]

Yes, Derrida is very Heideggarian

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[atreestump]

Have you any thoughts so far? Anything to guide us with?;)
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I see it opens with the problem of how to respond to a question, ‘Why Derrida?’ and it immediately focuses on the presupposition that we know Derrida is not an energy drink, or a prospective location for the Olympic games. Then ‘Why Derrida?’ is in quotes, but it already was.

So already there’s deontic demands, presuppostions and the review of time, how a text appears present, but is in the past. Reflecting on Being and Time, which was like reading an experience ‘horizon’, where objects pop up and then we magnify them, zoom in and take a really close look at them. In this text, it is focusing on sentences, the structure of the sentences. The question of deciding comes in, how do we decide what goes in quotes?

My impression is that there are two processes at work at any moment, but the one we experience is not actually ‘the present’, quotation seems to be used whenever something is not the whole fact, it’s never complete, there’s always something to add on to it. Quotes are always ‘past’.

I’m trying to bear in mind that Derrida is a process philosopher and that the text is all that is the case.

[thetrizzard]

I’m just at Chapter 4, my only advice at this moment would be to read and digest

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I’m just at Chapter 4, my only advice at this moment would be to read and digest

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Oh, ok. I thought we were going to discuss each chapter, so I was holding back on chapter 1.

I will resume.

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I’m nearly at the end of Chapter Four, as i re-read everything.

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