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I’m on Chapter 6 of the Derrida Critical Reader….Chapter 4 I found a little difficult if I’m honest, all that talk of the spectre and ‘the experience of the impossible’…hopefully this will make more sense as I progress….Chapter 5 is where I think it gets interesting when he tackles Derrida’s investigation of ‘the supplement’ in Rousseau and how it relates it to the on-going construction of the ‘l’ and formation of identity….as ‘we are (always) (still) to be invented’…..Chapter 6 addresses that often misunderstood comment by Derrida that ‘there is nothing outside of the text’ which has been touched on earlier in your forum…here it looks at Derrida’s criticism of the linguistic turn in Structuralism, and concentrates more on what he calls the ‘other of language’ which is the true focus of deconstruction…this is where he employs the use of ‘the mark’ rather than the text or language…which is prelinguistic, I think this links in with what he is trying to tease out in Chapter 4

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The supplement reminds me of what I refer to as a placeholder, or more precisely, meta syntactic variables.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasyntactic_variable?wprov=sfsi1

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Think I will pick this up again this week. I just ploughed through the fascinating Judith Butler book ‘Gender Trouble’. Tried reading some Wittgenstein and Derrida but the writing style is incredibly tame compared to Butlers style!

@”thetrizzard”

How are you getting on with this?

[Socrates]

On chapter 7 Differance.

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Took a break myself, I’m on Chapter 11….there’s an interesting comment in Chapter 10 on page 133…’Deconstruction, Derrida suggests, has to do with ‘the opening of the future itself’

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That’s the very first thing that Derrida talks about in the documentary that was made about him. He speaks of being excited about arrivals he does not expect.

[Socrates]

Chapter 8 brings back the notion of a virus contagion, that philosophy and literature are cross contaminated.

[Socrates]

I think I will have to go back and read about Kristeva’s ‘Monstotous Feminine’ after reading this chapter on Monsters – seems it could be talking about this ‘arrivant’.

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I just found this PDF that may be of interest regarding that chapter.

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So I find the chapter ‘Monsters’ to detail Derrida’s pre-reading process as a new beginning, faced with fear, hes scared of what is to come very interesting. Lots of beginners mind references here, ‘approach the text like you have never read anything before’, completely empty.

Derrida also brings a whole new reading of Nietzsche’s quote about the abyss here too – rather than it sounding like one becomes what is abysmal in others in a negative sense, Derrida explains it as an arrival we can affirm, the abyss is the future.

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@”Princess”

Have you read any of this book, Princess?

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On chapter 12 today, last chapter.

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Just finished it. Lots to digest, think i will get on with the Lacan book for now. The last chapter probably has some good starting points we could go over.

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This video has some interesting takes on Shakespeare and mentions ‘the time is out of joint’. Much of what this guy says reminded me of what I had read in this book.

[video=youtube]https://youtu.be/_P0G0VwQoQo[/video]

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@”thetrizzard”

What do you make of this?

http://journals.lub.lu.se/index.php/STK/article/download/6800/6443

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