Lacan | The imaginary

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    atreestump
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      From what I can gather, Lacan is saying the formation of the ego is a structuring of images, an illusion of completeness after feeling fragmented, until eventually, during the mirror stage (not a literal mirror) we form our ego and subjectivity (which are two different things for Lacan) in relation to the other. 

      Anyone else have anything to add to the clarity here?

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      kFoyauextlH
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        Lacan may have been a highly visual person which places a bias in his writing towards certain sensory frames of interpretation. The funny thing is that Lacan’s work and efforts exceeds or is superior to Lacan’s language limitations in attempting to explain things or as he may have really believed or understood it due to a heavy visual bias in his way of accessing and interpreting information.

        The key to Lacan is to avoid the visualization aspects and aim for the Germanic guttural and emotional or visceral, non visual language or areas to stay more true to the origins of Ego and the other concepts, which are very much Blind and based on pain sensations and pleasure sensations and the stuff of deprivation tanks.

        This is also a way into Plato and Buddhism which each attempt to take us back into the womb and the beginning and before the beggining of our lives, which the visual can only distract from, as there was no Let there Be Light for us until we crept out of our mothers.

        So ironically using your eyes, it becomes imperative in understanding some of these things to strive for the visceral and bodily and rigorous rather than the mental devoid of pain, or the visual devoid of impact.

        The visceral or body reading of Lacan, Buddha, Plato, and Germanic philosophers, opens up an important dimension and visual tendencies and thinking really disrupt the experience and understanding by creating masks and idols being even further away than language.

        Its simply the wrong direction to move from language into images.

        It begins with blind pain. Freud’s body language need not be taken as irrelevant, but an attempt to express non-visual and visceral sensation which goes down a path which is converted into other things or sublimated.
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        The stomach and the genitals and the chest are the memory and sense tools required to be sensitive and active in reading and best understanding the materials presented by Freud and those who followed him. The eyes and visual centers can be used for reading the material but can not lead to an understanding of it in any very useful or profound way.

        When Lacan was mentioned I brought up lycanthropy or the bestial and bodily for a reason. Most Freudian and Germanic school philosophy flies through the head of people because it is not processed in the correct Loka, the center or core of the gut and chest or the viscera of the emotion, not talked out sorts of rationalized pain or reaction.

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