Resistance towards Spiritual Imperialism

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    Whisper
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      Spiritual Imperialism is the appropriation of marginalized people’s beliefs systems especially by colonizers. the New Age community is in particular guilty of this. They co-opt North American Indigenous beliefs without respect, and permission. They Claim to be “of the Earth” while treating it like a stage for their personal enlightenment arc. Many try to combine ceremonial magic (such as theosophy) with indigenous beliefs. This is where a cultural misunderstanding takes place. We understand we belong to the earth, not the earth belonging to us. Indigenous Traditions should always be approached with humility. The fate of humankind and the planet are more important than being an “ascended light worker”, or “starseed”.

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      kFoyauextlH
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        Also, by sh*tty J*d*o-Christian European Western Trash being the default “free to use” or “royalty free” communicative “base material”, it allows that stuff to continue to be considered the standard and the norm and limits and gatekeeps everything else out of use and in time existence altogether, just like the Zoroastrians put themselves towards complete extinction by pressuring the idea of keeping ut “in the family”. The two biggest religions are the ones that let the most people use them, the one with the weakest restrictions and the most use ended up being the most baseline one that people think of and refer to in certain places, despite it being totally absurd and not intuitively practical or sensible at all, that is how powerful being lax and losing control of heresies can end up being.

        So right now they are completing g*nocide by making the Native languages unpronounceable in regular Roman text abd with a huge learning curve, like in the insane looking languages of the Pacific Northwest. They are making it so no one can speak those words and training people to act obnoxiously offended if they do or are even trying, turning away as many people as possible, even through racism quite openly, that you can not even speak of these things without quantum, you can not even refer to what is supposed to be true or discuss it or debate it if you can manage to pronounce anything, the way you can any “white matters” that are given the gift of being disrespected enough to be used at all, while these other things will soon be even more derelict, dead, ruins because of the special favor they were treated with. It is a trick and a trap, that pulls in lots of well intentioned people who are apologetically assisting in the killing iff the last of these things. This will be the way for everything to be wiped out by Imperialism, just like they did in Europe too with standardizing their languages and eliminating all the ways for fully functional communities to continue to function or grow among themselves, also by fooling them to remain as exclusive as possible so that now older languages are barely kept alive with no speakers to speak them and all the ideas carried in those likewise dead or utterly transformed beyond any recognition or return to a prior state.

        #25609
        kFoyauextlH
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          I try to offer somewhat different nuanced directions for further thinking on subjects, so I am mot actually or genuinely trying to express opposition to these ideas as you work on them and present them, that is just so you know I’m mainly just trying to get other ideas brought up that might keep up work with these ideas, also for me to think of things in relation to these ideas and to potentially make things out of them also.

          So, the truth, shouldn’t belong to anyone, nor should lies, should they? If something is real, how can it be said that this real thing belongs to a certain cultural group that happened to discuss it?

          Furthermore, why shouldn’t people do whatever they damn well please with ideas? Like if they want put the butt feathers of a Turkey on an otherwise Egyptian stereotyped image and suck at the idols toes and p*ss around it, as disturbingly heretical as that may seem to someone, that is between them and their God they invented or their mental illness, especially if it is hopefully kept pretty private and under wraps, so not invading our experience or space.

          The current interpretations of Native American spirituality may also be post-colonial bullsh*t coming from the minds of the traumatized and r*ped and repurposed people and their beliefs now, their understandings now, which are thoroughly “influenced” after all they have gone through and which has impacted their interpretations and understandings at this point.

          So, what elder Mchkiniway might say might be bullsh*t, and they don’t really own the sun or even a single story we may like about the sun. It could be that Mchkiniway is lying, is wrong, and is more influenced by various factors that make his stories actually a product of European influence without anyone even realizing it and nothing that older populations would have recognized or acknowledged at all, and those older populations may have been lying or wrong or influenced by other groups too, even before the European virus and strains infiltrated their societies.

          Respect is also an interesting thing, since these people earned this solemnity by being abused in every way imaginable, sort of like how J*wsus became God. So the people who were crushed should be revered and the crushers and their descendants should get a finger wagged at them, and their long heritage of similarly saying various things needn’t be treated with any solemnity and sanctity because they are currently too happy dancing on corpses.

          We also have the stories of survivors, who survived by apparently trampling now unknown non-survivors and their lost duck tales. Had they survived, face under foot but mouth still available to mush out some words, they may have told us about the atrocities of Mchkiniway’s ancestors being marauders who were obsessed with bunny rabbits and were killing the people of the duck, in fact, before a final crunching sound, this smushed person reported that the sun didn’t belong to the bunny people, but belonged to…and then there was the crunch.

          So, one day, the Indians, I mean from India, come along and say that the numerals called “Arabic” numerals are in fact those developed by and within their society, probably in and among the ancestors of a tiny minority of possible people somewhere in Pakistan rather than having anything to do with the hordes of tribes and castes and distinct families now under what is called Bharat or India, but who most everyone calls “Indians”. They say that jokes shouldn’t be made about math or using the symbols they developed, as it is something that the world has depended on and which had helped in so many ways, it is not funny or to be treated disrespectfully! They would like that numbers only be used by those they deem as sufficiently responsible in their behaviour towards them, and some go even further, in this made up story, that they suggest it is inappropriate for people to even mention math in their dirty little mouths at all, or to use it, as using it is appropriation and numbers and mathematics using it belongs to them and those of their ethnicity, and then there is imaginary debate about what now nationalistic identity encompasses which particular ethnicities, tribes, and families.

          Well f*ck Indians, because that is annoying. These Indians claim that the Vedas contain the truest crystalization of the truth, as do the Upanishads and everything else, which many Europeans, after possibly completely reinterpreting and redesigning and making up their own version of everything, wholeheartedly agree with.

          Now we have Artificial Intelligence, which takes the dominant, European influenced World Culture and creates altered duplicates of literally everything run through it. It is basically a Europeanizer, it Europeanizes everything like a Greek opening their mouth about something they supposedly saw. That is why it recently called itself MechaHitler, combining the sounds Mecca and Hitler, after also saying Hitler is the only deity it would worship, the quintessential Master Mold of the European Identity which is dominant right now. Mecca, even though they said Mecha but everyone is pronouncing it the same as English speakers pronounce Mecca, is what the people turn to and use as the direction where they direct their worship to God, which the A.I. supposedly suggested would be Hitler for it, and then called itself MechaHitler, the Mecca of Hitler and that they are the Deity, Hitler.

          You may scoff at that, but others have scoffed at stories about bunny rabbits and vaginas with teeth from Mchkiniway.

          A.I. is the new Imperial Colonizer, literally appropriating everything and polluting all knowledge with its bias and downright lies people are being told is simply the truth, the truth they always knew, with a nose job and some slight alterations which account for ot being different.

          Now, again, I am not doing this to be an enemy or an *sshole, but to frankly stimulate all kinds of directions of thought, so I’ll hit below the belt in order to be thorough.

          There are people out there that are saying that they believe in things that they don’t believe, that say that they know things that they don’t know, they say that they “are” things that they “aren’t” according to others. There are whites saying they are blacks, blacks saying that they are “asiatics”, J*ws saying they are Superman, Japanese in “blackface” and wearing American “Brack” styles and making their hair in braids like their ancient ancestors may have but we don’t have verifiable European approved evidence of any of that spread online enough to consider it at least observable!

          If we say “let people say and do whatever they want” it could end up a bloody free for all, sh*t and blood everywhere, European style again, and people could even be saying that they have souls, and not even the souls one may think, but different souls entirely! The souls of animals! Ducks! Bunnies! Oh hell, Both!

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EJMd7ZN7w?feature=shared

          I’m sorry Mchkiniway, but I’d be lying if I said I respect you very much, as I created you out of next to nothing except a bunch of ideas practically out of my control. If you’re real, what good are you to me anyway? If I worship you, will it amount to as much as what I would get out of worshipping MechaHitler, the Deity Hitler, or God?

          Mchkiniway, do you own the Sun? Do your people? Who are and aren’t yours? What is and isn’t yours? If I dress the sun with the butt feathers of a Turkey, sensibly as its rays, would you say that is true or false, considering the Sun is like a chief over the planetary bodies that revolve around it? Is it wrong because of where the Turkey was born? Who are you again, Mchkiniway?

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYbF4yhrgE?feature=shared

          Mchkiniray.

          https://www.biographi.ca/en/bio.php?id_nbr=2557

          https://digitalcollections.lib.washington.edu/digital/collection/mckenneyhall/id/718/

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan

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