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    kFoyauextlH
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      Feel free to discuss any ideas connected to or appearing to you in or as:

      Animals, Numbers ,Symbols, Objects, Stars, Constellations, Elements, Gods, Peoples/Nations/Ethnic Groups, Characters, Fiction, Stones, Gems, Metals, Plants, Tools, Clothing, Names or whatever at all.

      For Example, the Elephant as a symbol sometimes seeming to imply certain themes of Divine Kingship or Kingship in general, Dominance, Overwhelming Power, Earthquaking and Thundering, Loudness, Crushing, Loftiness, Invasion, Old Authority, Wisdom also associated with big ears as associated with old age, Religion, God, Earth, Air, Water, Height , Stature, Strength, Enormous use of resources, Clearing the way or dropping trees, Rampage, great piles of sh*t.

      The 1 with two extra is 3. The 3 with two extra is 5. The 5 with two extra is 7. The 7 with two extra is 9. The 9 with two extra is 11. The 11 with two extra is 13. The 13 with two extra is 15. Then 17 then 19, 21, 23, 25, 27, 29, 31 and so on and so forth.

      This making of 3 by adding two extra to everything seems to lead to a number of significant numbers that have long been popularly used for a great deal of things and have also long been associated with mysticism.

      I mention them here because they may assist people in organizing their minds in such a way that a thorough examination of correspondences and themes and ideas may become more possible and less elephantine seeming.

      There is 1 and all leads back to 1.

      The 2 extra leads to 3.

      The 5 and then the 7 and the 9.

      5 were the stars now known as planets, plus the sun and the moon, the two other luminous bodies which appear different than the others. 5 were the Gahs, Periods of the day and times of worship.

      7 were the primes, the Good Spirits and Bad Spirits of Zoroastrianism and the Arch Angels of Catholicism, and 7 were the planets, lokas, Gods, days of the week.

      There are the basic forms of creatures and those divide further. For example the family of the Canine, and Feline, both belong to the family of the furry mammal predator, but further extend into thr lions, tigers, and cats, the wolves, the dogs, the foxes, and coyotes and hyenas, and then there are the scaly crawling creatures, the fish.

      These can be divided into three domains, The Sky, The Earth, and The Sea, and two extra, the Heavenly or Astral and the Cthonic, and two further, the Divine and the Infernal or Godly and Hellish. For 3, 5, 7.

      ​​​​The clues are all there, they exist is the Vahanas or Carriers of certain ideas.

      To the Fanfare of the King, the Elephant.

      To the Storm of the Mind, Transfer, Communication, and Death, the Raven.

      To Manipulation of the Sea of Information and what those Waters of Life and Experience Contain, the Octopus or Tentacled Creature or Many Handed, whose number is 8 but above it 9. Avolakitesvara and the mischief of Zion and Zyne.
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      Just to whet your appetite for discovery!
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      Start with One or Zero and think about it and all the most right and justifiable associations and how they can be justified and explained.

      The first number will be associated with independence and aloneness, the 2 with communication, the 3 with ordering or entrapment or locking.

      ​​​​​0 can refer to Death, Emptiness, Essence, First State.

      1 can refer to Dominance, Kingship, and many other things, we hear it all the time with things like You are Number One, they are Number One, Top Ranked, First Place etc.

      2 can refer to Communication and Transfer and anything that has or requires 2 in some sense.

      3 is an Ordering or Closing number or lock, people tend to use it to finalize or complete or categorize things. Beginning, Middle, End, Top, Middle, Bottom, Past, Present, Future, Forward, Stationary, Backwards, and so many more which can be multiplied together leading to a series of 3 times 3 times 3 and so on. The 3 can be associated with the Scorpion because of its shape, also associated with the trident, the pitchfork, the gunas, and much more. Scorpions or things with two claws like that are also associated with locking and clamping down.
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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loka

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vahana

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navagraha

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_astrology

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_days_of_the_week

       https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Spirits_of_God

       https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amesha_Spenta

       https://iranian.com/main/blog/nabarz/persian-angels-and-demons.orig
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      Here is another funny or interesting thing. The numbers seem to start imitating each other at 4.

      For example 0 representing death and being symbolized by a circle, then it skips 1 and goes 2 whose echo is 6 the number of mirroring and division of 3 and E as opposites, then it skips 7 and makes 8 the next 3 which completes its shape and represents the lock of infinity or perpetuity.

      So 0 and 4 whose shape is the square and both have bern associated with death.

      2 and 6 whose symbol is 3 against 3 or 3E and both deal with dualism or division. To add to the confusion, if zero is taken as the first number then 2 is the third number.

      8 then looks like a 3 and also reflects a lock of infinity.

      One should remain fluid in these things, just as organic matter is not symmetrical or neatly of the same shape but is much more complex in its freedom and expansions. People get locked in trying to make neat symmetries and polarizations and end up either forcing matches or abandoning the efforts because of something not neatly fitting in.

      There are also clues like Thunder repeating, Thunder as the praise and wrath of God, thus associating thunder with Thor which means Thunder, Rimmon, Rudra, Indra, Chac, and Bears as well as Aeshma or Asmodeus. The Association with lust and Asmodeus seems to have occurred later due to certain Jewish stories taken from Persia where Asmodeus keeps people from their wives, but Aeshma means Wrath and is placed in opposition to another form. In the Testament of Solomon he is associated with the Bear and the idea may make a sneak appearance by Chance in Ghostbusters as Vigo and Vigos demonic form including the female possessiveness that occurs in the Jewish stories.

      Wrath is just another conceptual aspect of God’s qualities or actions.

      The Animal associated with Thor was the Bear, and bears were associated with the Wrath of God in the Old Testament.

      Rimmon has more in common with Odin and Odin has much in common with Hermes and Mercury and Budha the Hindu planet Mercury whose vahana or vehicle is the raven as well, including the Raven, but Ramiel or Thunder of God was the name given to one Angel which is why I mentioned Rimmon.
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      Many things also repeat, like multiple things may be associated with Venus within one list, like Astaroth and Lucifer both referring to Venus or Shukra, the Guru of the Demons or Demonic/Asuras.
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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anu

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_deity
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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichotomy_(philosophy)
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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thraetaona
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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ennead

       https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympian_spirits
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      Lots of important things here:

       https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_solid

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        Let’s discuss again.

        #23728
        Anonymous

          This is still relevant.

          #25319
          Anonymous

            Any updates on this?

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