[atreestump]

I have been debating with a few people about capitalism and they all seem to have very fascist views.

The basis of their arguments are:

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[*]Socialism (welfare, communal land etc) is theft and slavery of the minority of capitalists
[*]Homeless people are lazy
[*]Remittance is great
[*]Augusto Pinochet has bought growth to Chile, he killed everyone who opposed him and stole all publicly held property to sell it, but you know, socialism is theft right?
[*]Vedanta are criminals for polluting rivers in Zambia – but that’s got nothing to do with capitalism of course…
[*]If you can’t afford to live here, why should landlords charge less? It’s not like you made money for them or anything…
[*]Chinese factory workers are free, that’s why when they try to kill themselves, we bring them back to life and send them back to work for $1.76 per hour
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[Socrates]

What about companies with a public image to maintain? What about companies which defend people against domination, trans people? There are also a few companies that defend privacy although I do find things increasingly panoptic with many of them.

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It all comes down to trust. I don’t see how private companies can be properly regulated if they play roles usually assigned to the state.

I was coming at these arguments with an anti-humanist anarchist view – there is nothing important about human beings and we should be doing better than just dividing up everything as property with a harsh work ethic with it too.

[atreestump]

They are very extreme arguments, i’ve never seen such aggressive ideas.

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[Whisper]

Those seem like really extreme arguments, that you have brought up, Ontical

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Because fascism is pretty good at what it does. It’s obviously preferable. In wartime it can guarantee expansion and gaining / stealing resources. The only way land rights have such absolute meaning is through government.

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What about companies with a public image to maintain? What about companies which defend people against domination, trans people? There are also a few companies that defend privacy although I do find things increasingly panoptic with many of them.

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[Princess]

Because fascism is pretty good at what it does. It’s obviously preferable. In wartime it can guarantee expansion and gaining / stealing resources. The only way land rights have such absolute meaning is through government.

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