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      What are his politics?

      He pretty much spews all of the stuff you expect from alt-right talking points, anti-feminism, pro-anarcho capitalism and without a historical context.
       

      There appears to me to be no real way to distinguish between magic and religion or even science. The book Arcana Mundi as well as White Magic Black Magic seem to make it clear that academics have not finalized any distinction really between magical activity and religious activity though they have tried and furthermore that magical and ritualistic procedures were the forerunner to modern science.

      To me, magic has two meanings: 
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      [*]Performance magic
      [*]Using symbols to create changes in the physical world
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      Religion is the binding of many different beliefs in God or Gods into a hierarchical organization.

      Whereas science, or to be more specific, natural science, is the use of the scientific method which can falsify hypotheses in order to come up with a theory about reality that has the fewest possible assumptions and the highest possible predictability.

      That is what most academics would generally agree upon.

      There was some debate between how magic is conducted or even how prayers are answered.

      I was recently interested in this, there are two different models: 
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      [*]Petition and response
      [*]Stillness and Mindfulness (Hesychasm)
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      Hey so far on the older browser no lag while typing this!

      I will be honest, I am experiencing a few bugs when quoting.

      atreestump
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        I think what @”kFoyauextlH” is saying is first and foremost – the artist and intellectual devalues and revalues what creates value in an economy, whereas the norm and those who do not question the norms, have expectations that fit with a model of labor as the only thing that creates value. I would point you all towards Hannah Arendt, who turns the economy upside down to place labor as the least valuable thing in society and she places art towards the top. She does this by turning back to Aristotle and explaining how ‘economy’ comes from the Greek word ‘oikos’, which was a word for the household management for a king and later Political Economies (Ricardo, Smith, Marx etc) would extend the ‘household’ to a country. Arendt is a ‘pre-modernist’.

        Now his more controversial comment:

        The fault of Socialism and Communism, Guns, and just about every issue of debate are the people and almost always the people.

        The best way to deal with the people is to enslave them just as one would a beast, so long as this enslavement does not cause the deterioration or loss of great minds.

        This is a solution that often comes up when coming from the Nietzschean perspective and Platonist perspective for that matter, that the ‘herd’ or the occupants of the cave, have no idea what a Good life consists of and think in concrete terms that lead to self-policing.

        I suppose the question here that arises, as it always does in this sort of discussion, is how is it possible implement a society that relegates work in favor of personal pursuits of growth in the hope that giving people more freedom will lead to freedom for all? In some respects, most people don’t see ‘being controlled’ as control at all; they accept their fate and position in society. But I would argue that deep down, they feel bitter and resentful and over time, they will begin to erupt when they feel less able to express themselves.

        Should we just run away and live how we want to? Can solitary living away from the herd lead to a return, or must it lead to a return to the herd?

        in reply to: The weirdest religion! #18912
        atreestump
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          @”kFoyauextlH” what do you mean by weird?

          Serpius does cut his quotes down so that the quotes don’t completely fill each post.

          in reply to: Medieval English Pottery #18932
          atreestump
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            On beards used in Medieval Pottery http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/assemblage/html/9/cumberpatch.html#link4

            Stroking ones beard brings the ancient Chinese kung fu master archetype to mind.

            in reply to: Medieval English Pottery #18931
            atreestump
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              Pottery is a great example of how we ‘think with our hands’.

              in reply to: Jacques Lacan | Routledge Critical Thinkers #18755
              atreestump
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                @”TheMaskedAvenger” I have been trying to get in contact with you for nearly a month – we have been waiting for you.

                in reply to: Rights #18909
                atreestump
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                  Personally, I see the development and adoption of Human Rights by various countries as a major step forward for respecting difference, especially in a world that is increasingly globalised and interconnected. It paradoxically transcends prejudice based on differences yet respects difference at the the same time….I feel that if there could ever be a common humanity or a new world religion then here would be the place to start, maybe it’s already started

                  Globalisation certainly brings into focus a clash of cultures and we could perceive our globalised world as a closed system, but it is a novelty, never before have we been faced with such considerations. I think rights require a pre-condition of compassion, which must stem from self-respect and not low self esteem, which is often the problem as to how rights are perceived by some to be ‘taking away’ of ones rights when some are given to others.

                  We need better education. Educating citizens to be consumers isn’t enough, schools should teach more independent options like self-employment and discourage high and mighty economic interests that lead to collective action problems caused by self-interest. What I mean by this, is that as someone who is self employed, I have to set a price for services that is fair, but is enough to sustain me, but all we see is competition and undercutting, people devalue themselves and daren’t ask for more or what is reasonable and then get resentful, but at the same time, they accomodate low valuations of labor and so they price themselves out of the market. Before rights for a living wage can be properly implimented, we need to elevate above the position of beggars in the market.

                  the fighting for betterment is innate but it’s only known a posteriori

                  Indeed, but this is being squeezed out of us all, competition makes people hard and harsh and they right off their own rights before they can even get to implimenting them as standards.

                  in reply to: Your most Radical thoughts! #18902
                  atreestump
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                    All in eye of the beholder, but the mentioning of the phallocentric nature of language in literature is interesting, that women are ‘subject’ to the male gaze, something that feminists picked up on from Lacan.

                    in reply to: Rights #18890
                    atreestump
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                      In the Levinas, Heidegger and Derrida book, I just started reading about what you mentioned here! 

                      I think I can agree with that definition of ‘innate’ or at least we can say thry are a priori as sn episteme.

                      I find the rights inquiry interesting as it brings up the role of the state as giver and taker of rights and in some regards, they can be a bit of a con, but let’s not deny the progress of course.

                      in reply to: David Firth Appreciation Thread #18698
                      atreestump
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                        A very good summary of current events:

                        atreestump
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                          The point I disagree with is blaming a type of economic society or a type of governmental society. That’s not truly where the problem lies.

                          It’s not just an economic system – a culture comes with it too.


                          The problem lies within the society itself… worldwide… regardless of which country you live in… regardless of which language you speak or what race you identify yourself with. 

                          It doesn’t matter!

                          Yes and those problems stem from economic issues for the most part, inequality and lack of solidarity, competitive ideologies and domination accompanied by exploitation. The point is, there is a problem and we can talk about it, we can understand it and figure out means to change it.


                          I don’t blame my parents for a lot of the stuff that has happened to me over the years. 
                          They raised me the best way they knew how. 
                          No one gave my parents a book on how to properly raise a child in the society they lived in.

                          I never blamed my parents – they incorporated the culture around them, just like you and I did. The point is that we are taught how markets works, how to buy and sell commodities, we are taught what property is and to respect authority – modern day consumers have to be trained. Capitalism has been a devastating success and it has changed drastically since my parents were younger in post-war society. Growth and progress were possible due to cheap petroleum and a Keynesian model, but that is on the way out and all we have left is a society full of debt.

                          Work ethics are not only taught by parents, they are enforced by all of those who occupy the society, which is why we can’t just look at capitalism (or scoailism, communism or whatever) as only an economic system – it is a culture and form of life.


                          It’s you as a person that dictates how your life will be and how you fit into an imperfect society.

                          All it takes, is one injury and sickness and I could be homeless. All it takes is for the social projects that provide cheap housing to decide they want to sell off those properties for profit and I will never be able to relax, retire or even live a life that is worth living – your choices are only as good as the choices that are available and possible. I consider myself part of the precariat class, it would take a matter of weeks for me to become destitute, me and many others.

                          The problem I have with capitalism is that it will put property law and profits before human beings. No one here is dreaming of perfection – or utopias (which means ‘nowhere’) – socialism, capitalism and communism all have their problems.


                          Final statement: I don’t blame society or the people who have been close to me in my life for how my life has turned out so far.

                          Again, it’s not to be thought of as blame, it’s an acknowledgment of how the system works and how it is a system of exploitation. My parents are in the same situation – we are all in the same boat. While some of us may live in relative comfort, there are others who are suffering, take those in producing countries for instance, while their ‘economies’ are doing well, the ones who are working here work in terrible conditions on low wages (around $1.76 per hour) so their governments can go to war with other countries, exploiting resources from countries with poor property law – war is a means of opening markets. Let’s not forget the trillions of dollars that was given to the banks for the bailout that crippled the world, the rich got richer and the poor got poorer.


                          I only have myself to criticize or applaud my decisions and yet at the same time, I do accept whatever consequences of those decisions have on my life.

                          I couldn’t agree more. Just remember that no man is an island however. This is actually the point of my post, no blame or acting like a victim, take control of your life and do the best you can do.

                          My point is if the state is going to leave everyone high and dry for profits, then it may as well not exist. The problem is enclosure, it’s all very well looking at the world as if it is a human being’s divine right to divide it up as property for a price, but eventually, there’s no where else to go – what then? Not only that, but capitalism offers no workable solution for climate change, which is something your children are going to have to face. The board game of Monopoly is a form of game theory in economics which addresses this problem of accumulation and enclosure – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_George

                          Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Poverty
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism

                          He makes some really good points that I think could work, a progressive taxation.

                          in reply to: #18873
                          atreestump
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                            Haven’t watched this yet, but I think the Caputo essay is great.

                            in reply to: Zeynep Direk | Companion to Derrida #18866
                            atreestump
                            Keymaster

                              Haven’t watched this yet, but I think the Caputo essay is great.

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                              atreestump
                              Keymaster

                                Haven’t watched this yet, but I think the Caputo essay is great.

                                in reply to: #18858
                                atreestump
                                Keymaster

                                  Haven’t watched this yet, but I think the Caputo essay is great.

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