[atreestump]

Good to see more active members today, it took nearly six months, but we are getting there! See you tomorrow.

[atreestump]

It’s odd though, some days you are fine with thought of leaving worldly bound worries – then others you are awoken during the night with the sweats of death afraid of waking at 40 unfulfilled.

[atreestump]

I hate my mind, i hate that is filled with endless wants and corrupted by desires.

Not all desire is bad!
 

Where I shame others who are amused by the economic problem that we face where we try to fulfil ourselves with objects that don’t account for anything.

This kind of fulfilling of desires, you are right to call out. Once we cease to be, it amounts to nothing.
 

Is this what this maze is all about?

I think I have a more labyrinthine view of the path through life.
 

Is this why we are still stuck in a fictional reality where we are convinced the next beauty product or a highly regarded brand is the answer to our problems. Because we are scared of the real issues that haunt us.

‘Life is just a series of distractions until you die’ – Tony Soprano. 😀
 

“you’re a smart person you just don’t have the integrity to work hard”
“maybe i am just smart enough to realise working my entire life to acquire the endless desires of my mind is not the answer and listening to the importance of my heart is”

Yeah, I find that accusation of not being ‘aspirational enough’ to be quite offensive, especially when it means aspiring to climb the ladder of capital and be comfortable.

[atreestump]

To me, life is all about letting go. @”thetrizzard” put it well in a discussion a while ago: ‘coming to terms with termination’.

[atreestump]

do you think true humility is possible? Furthering that, what I mean is, do you think that we can be altruistic without any selfish motives

I think it all hangs in a balance. I don’t think we can separate selfish from altruistic and I don’t necessarily see all selfishness as inherently bad.

[atreestump]

Syncretism was the binding of beliefs for political ends, so when the Romans invaded somewhere, they would appropriate the gods of the new culture as being like thier own gods.

[atreestump]

There’s an interesting part in the book where she talks about how Indian people shit on the beach and bury it in order to demonstrate how the abject is the unspoken and yet, we are aware of it being there.

[atreestump]

I think there is something there but I can only approach it with an empty mind ready for its appearance – the occult is like peeling an onion and the human condition, being human, has an infinite number of layers anyway and so we are always ignorant of ourselves.

[atreestump]

The movie The Matrix is heavily influenced by Jean Baudrillard and his book Simulacra and Simulation even appears in the movie as the stash for the hardware Neo sells to his hacker friend near the start of the movie.

I am watching it again today to see how much of this post human language I can spot in it. The main attraction of the movie is Baudrillards’ Hyperrealism.

[atreestump]

I think most of he bindings were political, syncretism started around the time of Alexander the Great.

[atreestump]

Long story short I rejected religion fairly early in life. When something happens I don’t understand I don’t immediately assume it the hand of some god or the devil or magic or fairy dust. Usually when you look at something hard enough you find a completly rational explanation for it. 

Great first post. I personally start with an empty position of ‘I don’t know’ so that I can hopefully approach the phenomenon with no presumptions. I like Blaise Pascal when he says ‘the finite cannot know the infinite’.
 

Christianity’s fables proved most disappointing. Anything within it that might have been even vaguely useful was stolen from some other pagan source. 
This problem of borrowed stories, accounts, and traditions that were watered down and repurposed was a reoccurring theme.

There is definitely a re-purpose agenda and these fables are most harmful when taken at face value, but I am sceptical about finding ‘original sources’ as the truest and purest form of a thing. Take the square root of minus 1, it does not exist in real world terms at all, certain rules have to invented for it to be calculated, but mathematics is still in its ‘purest’ form, even though it is not in its ‘original’ state – say, counting with sticks and stones, or with the fingers on my hand.
 

Religion being overall a farce. Something made by man for man’s purposes but a farce made from shattered and little understood pieces of truth. 

When taken in its literal face-value form, yes, it is a silly farce that priests have manipulated.
 

Basicly what im saying is that something is out there. Some powers that be. I’ve seen and felt them in ways I can’t hope to explain. And nor can religion. And nor can science… yet. One day I have no doubt that Science will unveil the Gods in which so many old and very dead and forgotten faiths had made meager attempts to worship in vain. 

Yet when we conclude all the epistemology is inadequate, we still declare there is a secret! I think an evaluation of what God/s is/are is first and foremost a necessity along with a revaluation of what the aims of science are and for what purpose.
 

Hardy people built cabins miles into these ranges. Far from anything that could resemble a road.  Places that mules struggle to keep footing on. Yet these men and women were hardy enough to build there and haul supplies in and out on foot. Now a days these places are considered inhospitable. This may seem off topic but to me it illustrates how humanity has lost capability. Lost the strength of will to survive harsh conditions. 

This part is interesting to me, as you have turned to the struggle and suffering aspect of the human condition, which is where religion and spirituality stems from in essence. What also interests me here, is the connection to Accelerationist thought, which has elements of making environments much more difficult to adapt to, to the point of trans-humanism as a necessity – I would argue here that we are making ourselves obsolete because we are overestimating our strength and not accepting our limitations and the log-cabin human (for example, Walden by Henry David-Thoreau) was more accepting of the limits of the human condition, where as this post-human seems oblivious of the covert domination of a scientific world view.
 

Should humans so easily loose something so basic perhaps it’s easier to believe that there could have been some human beings far more capable in the ways of the occult?

I think the quest for the unknown may have gone too far in some respects, there is still theology and religion, but it has taken on a new meaning far beyond the face-value meaning.

[atreestump]

I recall this blending of etymology and homophones being a kind of cultural appropriation within radical new age movements.
[hr]
I have also shortened the title to something more specific.

[atreestump]

I will have to revisit the subject, will try for later this week. It’s worth opening up a thread for.

[atreestump]

Open up a new thread in general discussion.

[atreestump]

[Author]

Posts