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26/04/2017 at 09:38 in reply to: Diabolism Infernalism Baphometism Saracenism Islam Prime Evil | Medieval and later #19005
Yeah, that is what they look like when they ignite or become luminous through speeding up their vibrations or releasing some chemical and they seem to be able to move rather fluidly or more quickly while in the ball of light form than in the mist form which seems more relaxed and expanded though I’ve seen them move relatively fast in that form as well. I once looked up at the sky and there were all these stars and then one of the stationary seeming stars started to move and do wild loopdy loops and then zoom in a blue streak meaning it was descending back to Earth rather than going far away which would’ve caused a red streak known as red shift. The Qur’an mentions the Jinn from the perspective of the Jinn in the chapter entitled The Jinn and talks about their sitting up high in the atmosphere to try to pick up signals and transmissions which might tell them about incoming things on the Earth and atmospheric influences which are of interest to them and their communities. The behavior looked drastic and sudden though like it was making evasive maneuvers or had to rapidly get back down for refueling or air or something the way we might needto when we dive in water.
[hr]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sFCYCQFRGHU they see some with heat vision in a park.
What can we do to improve? I really try to be very sincere but it is text and up to how it is read which is in many cases apparently read in ways I don’t really intend. I put no effort into deception and I don’t edit my raw and thoughtless first speech or fret about the words or how it comes out or whatever.
These are all efforts to try to present things in text online as sincerely and nakedly as possible with no masking effort or pretending or trying to be cool or smart or whatever people do.
This is like talking to someone with nothing to hide, nothing to lose, nothing to gain, open with their agenda, sincere with their thoughts and words and representing the most automatic and unedited straight from the heart and mind dialogue written with great speed and discomfort with no sparing any time for flourishes or luxuries, written almost in a trance with compulsion.
So talking to me on here is really talking to me like how I might talk to me in my own head.
I don’t generally sense that from everyone online as a common thing or in real life, but I am also so straight and real in real life too and it gives people an impression of irresistable charm and power like this person has impact and is trustworthy and true to their heart and lives unconcealed and can be known.
What improvements would you reccomend though for the way people communicate on this forum?
Very cool but it sounds a bit like paranoid schizophrenia also which has many similarities to magical thinking.
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Truly, a man with God in his life in the right way, is unafraid of curses and eats them for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and in between snacks.
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Then again, I believe in curses, except that pieces of sh*t are not granted anything. I curse all those who do wrong and spread suffering and are true villains, may they be tortured and destroyed forever. Anyone who believes in their own power falls victim to a new sort of stress or anxiety. One can see, that evil is allowed to do harm and go unchecked and no harm seems to come to evildoers who go about happily distressing all they can. When they are finally killed, it is a cause for celebration, just as they would celebrate at tragedy for the good or clean.
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I am most angry with the Power which makes all this so or has not given me the strength or power to abolish evil or kill or torture these enemies of joy. So all one is left to do is cry, inside or out, and that is how I often feel, rage and sadness, bitterness, because I am full of hatred towards vile injustice and the wicked.Origen or someone ended up making a miscalculation which led to a gradual shifting away of the old connections, constellations, and stars, so that modern Western Astrology would be unrecognizable or deemed completely baseless as compared to the Ancient Astrology which is still available to people.
In any case, the idea can be harmful or beneficial depending on how one uses it, and most people, possibly in the past as well used it to condemn people and accuse people of things. Why? Because humans seem to be petty little monsters for the most part.
So today astrology is used as an excuse to say “Oh he was a Scorpio and you know what that means!” Even though the person was not really a Scorpio according to Ancient Astrology at all.
The best way to take astrology is to go back to the original themes and correspondences and ideas which were meant to encompass great deal of themeatic information regarding the human experience and the divine. Taking Astrology as unrelated stars imposing upon people things and confirmation bias to verify it happening then and not every other time as well is just of the least use and the most restrictive, though the truly most wasteful practice woyld be to disregard its themes altogether and take it all for granted.
25/04/2017 at 21:20 in reply to: Diabolism Infernalism Baphometism Saracenism Islam Prime Evil | Medieval and later #18978A PM I wrote elsewhere:
” My inbox here is nearly full. If you would like to join http://www.ontic-philosophy.com , I am there and my inbox isn’t full so I wouldbe able to send and receive more messages.
I’m not the biggest fan of this website or most Occult communities because they seem to be permeated by misinformation and people who really don’t seem to care much so long as they believes or rather insist which like religious people holding to blind faith can be tedious and annoying since they become brick walls and no longer wish to see anything beyond the few modern and highly innacurate books they might have read and extremely poor research they did on Google when they were teenagers.
As you can see, I have a very poor impression of the quality of people and content on these sorts of websites, and even visiting and seeing what people say is really painstaking.
So after I am 3333 posts in a few short bouts which I may also use later, I tried to back off a bit because there seemed to be little of any hope to have these modern ideas sync up with Ancient or Mystical ones. The doorway is a heavy one to open, jammed by numerous authors trying to make a buck at the expense of flatly lying to people about everything possible.
Magic is now different from theology or religion, whereas in the past it was not. Magic was the religion and is the only religion there ever was, but a series of things happened which has now divided people on the issue and given them new meanings and words and nuances basedon their distaste for some things they have seen and their attraction to others.
The djinn or jinn, a word with a root meaning hidden or secret, the same root in jannah meaning paradise or enclosed or hidden garden, are not supernatural beings.
They are physical beings made of plasma among other things just as we are made of carbon matter. Plasma is described as smokeless fire and carbon matter is described as clay or dirt in the Quran.
They are visible and recordable and have hearing, sight, senses, and can speak.
They appear for the most part as a very fine gaseous membrane but can compress or ignite and become luminous or move very quickly or very slowly and have extreme flexibility like a gas. They also have electromagnetic qualities. I have dealt with them personally, they are not imaginary, anyone can see them. It requires no fakery of special vision or any of that foolishness made by those wishing to be special.
They also appear on heat vision and infared cameras and have a heat signature.
They live in forests and places where there is nearby food, for them their food is vapor and gasses, particularly flammable ones like methane released from rot and decay and fecal matter as well. They are attracted to places which use flammable chemicals for cleaning or paints as well and sometimes live in old homes, typically in attics and cellars or cabinets and other places. They can disperse their membrane widely and thus become very difficult to see except for being a fine mist or smoke or haze, but if one looks closely there is the appearance of little particles bouncing around which look like static or rain.
They are not psychic and have no magical powers. They only appear magical because people have forgotten about them or don’t know much about them or their activities. They can not and do not come at the beck and call of people, triangles can’t do anything to them. Their sensitivity to certain conditions is material and not based on anything superstitious.
The Jinn are not specific to Arabia but are the same as the Daemons made of Aer a heavy gas in Roman terminology, the Fae, the Elves, the Shin, and whatever else generally and also account for many of the ghost stories of white sheet sort of creatures and ghosts or balls of light and things seen in forests and swamps and heard there too or the speaking of little voices or whispers or strange things in caves.
The jinn also have their own technologies and have been a chain of evolution and innovation alongside human beings but their technologies are often unusable to humans and made specifically for this different kind of lifeform though they sometimes use metals to construct things. They have their own sorts of recreational items like cigarettes, weapons, alarm systems which are fully audible, and have imitated or influenced human society, politics, and organization in many senses, having religions, councils, corporations, wars, and whatever else, including law and nations and ethnicities or tribes and families. They have adapted as the world has adapted and in many ways only a little more advanced than humans, coveting technologies and not trusting everything in human hands, especially not that which can be used to harm them, and in many senses they are better protected by not being known and people thinking stupid things.
This is because they are highly fragile and easily harmed by flame and things which might disrupt their membrane or structure. For the most part, if they come around humans or human habitations, they stay high where people don’t tend to look or notice a mist or smoke crawling against the celings or walls.
Their expertise in remaining stealthy has led them to be used by some as spies and agents who can also disrupt or sabotage things without being caught or noticed.
You can see what they sometimes look like in a video of a flustered local japanese jinn at the time of the tsunami, a video called strange creature tsunami or something maybe.
Now for Demonology and Diabolism, there is another story. Again you should join http://www.ontic-philosophy.com so that these messages don’t fill up. It has an Occult section as well and seems to permit more free thought than Wizard Forums but you can just message me there.
The famous demons of the Solomonic stuff that everyone is crazy about and hallucinating regarding are the names of El or Allah of which there are 72 times 5 to make 360 or 27 times 4 to make 81 or tomes 5 to make 108. These are the 108 names of Shiva and Vishnu and whatever else too, the names of Ahura Mazda, the various emanations of Yazatas and Daevas from Zoroastrianism, and much more. They are the 72 Accomplices of Set associated with the 72 Malign Stars of China. They divide also into the 27 lunar mansions or Nakshatras, the 360 supposed idols of Ancient Mecca considered the first root settlement after people crossed over from Africa and the center of the world, 27 is also the number of the cube, and kabba means cube.
In any case, Occultism and Demonology stems from all this, the Canaanite religion or Semitic religion largely, besides the Indo-European Undercurrent, added to the Egyptian, plus the extras like Chinese and West African and then Native American and Meso-American being on the periphery and discovered a little later.
The three main influencers were the Semitic, the Hamitic, and the Japhetic or Indo-European, as crystalized in Phoenicia which is Canaan whose language and letters spread across the world as well as their astrology and astronomy. The Egyptian whose understanding of Time became highly popular, and the Vedic and Avestan whose mathematics and idealism or ideas of religious dualism and activism dominantly spread everywhere and influenced the idea of the Messiah or Savior figure as well through its popularity in Persia where the Jews were taken and picked up certain ideas.
The 360 degrees circle was extremely important and the numbers 72 and 27. 27 Hebrew and Greek letters and number indicators.
In any case, in order to neatly organize these elements and a great many associations, the emanations or extensions of El the Supreme and Ultimate were said to be 72 or 72 times 5 or 5 main with 2 extra leading to seven, seventy extended with two extra etc.
This idea was carried on in the Arabic and Jewish texts and also may have coincided or were joined with the Persian texts and seem to have similarities with Sanskrit texts and a direct relation to Greek thinking, which reached the Medieval people through Arab translations.
So we find names of God and Gods mentioned in the Bible and called demons. These relate to important root words which also appear in the epithets of Allah. There is ‘mn or nhm and mlk and rmn, there is ‘dr, the ‘ is representative of the glottal stop or uh sound which is aleph. Amon ( mentioned in Isaiah as Elhy Amen ) or Nahum who appears as Al Mu’min ( Mu is added to the front of things as the one who does or has, like Muslim is one who performs Islam ), Molech who appears as Al-Malik, Rimmon who appears as Rahman.
Medieval polemics and propaganda made Islam out to be Prime Satanism and Diabolism, without really having any proof for this claim and how it might really be true. Set also long before became associated with Chaos after Set or Sutekh was tied to the religion and beliefs of the Semitic people who had conquered them for a period and seem to have already had the idea of the many extensions of El or Uhlah, and had numbered them 70 or 72, the forms extended from Ashera or Right Ordering.
The people on Wizard Forums and most self-styled Occultists know little to nothing about any of this, and prefer to follow their fancies instead and have a general disdain for all things Islamic, yet they can’t escape it really, because it takes them back repeatedly, in Astrology, Animal Symbolism, Astrotheology, Free Masonry, Illuminati symbolism, Alchemy, Lovecraftian writing, Warhammer the game, Theurgy, Greek or Classical Mythology and Philosophy, Mesopotamian Magic, The word Magi itself and things called Chaldean, the English language and literary history and traditions, Jewish and Christian Angelology and Demonology and Saintology.
The Saints that many call upon and the angels and the arch angels and whatever appropriate names people call upon lead back to the same, based on the meanings of their names, their supposed domains or categories and associations, and whatever else.
It is one extremely old system, mentioned in the Bible as each of the 72 nations having their own attributes and associations, stemming from and stirring circularly around a nuclear center at the center of the world’s known landmass at the time known as Beth El or the House/Sanctum of Allah, and from around the world they return, reciting and thonking upon those same attributes and qualities which are most true for Allah alone.”
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Haha it did that refreshing thing again just like before when I attempted to put the same stuff as before in the lost post again.Someone is really not supposed to see it! I see i but then when I am ready to post it refreshes and wipes it all out.
So what is the solution? Can speak freely and warn and ban those who seem to make a mockery of those things. People might take my mysticism or mystic sounding talk as lightening the subject because of my use of the word Rape which is a very serious word for me. The only mildly humorous element in it is being a strong man type and being put in the unusual seeming position of the victim and using the word in reference to nature or natural activities which people don’t generally connect with words like rape and murder, even though these are in my view fully understood by the purveyor or enactor of these concepts and inventor of them in every sense.
It is pretty annoying to me as well when these words are not taken for their specific meanings and implications when used.
Rape to me, in its general usage, seems to contain at least two main concepts. To force something upon someone, to take something from someone. Additional concepts include strength and trickery. The concept of rape was extremely popular in the Ancient world and Classical world, and often associated with the divine as well.
In political and sociological dialogue it can also have a more encompassing meaning than an attack of a sexual nature where some form of unwanted invasion occurs.
Another area where I fall out of line with the trends is when I similarly attack what is commonly considered permissable just because it exists, if I were to suggest most sex includes coercion and is generally a form of rape similar to first drugging a person, as seen in how many events occur when the person returned to their senses then regrets it and wishes it weren’t so, but my version extends also into society convincing people they want it or wanted it or are wrong fornot wanting it and did want it if they went along or didn’t know or so many levels of blame that a person is left silent as well.
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Which brings up the real underlying point of both subjects. The human interest in whose to blame and how and why.Yeah, I’ve been around.
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My spirit anyway. I see that spirit’s graffiti or breath fog everywhere.Yeah, similar to Decartes, I lay around imagining there is really only an Evil Daemon who produces Experiences (such as me being me) and manipulates them but is not convinced by them or absorbed by them, thus retaining control or power of change which I as an experience can not seem to harness while it can, since it is something different.
I’d love to see more about that and quotes. There is a lot of Gothicism and Gothic themes in Academia and Philosophy and these before their Gothic forms may have stemmed from Greco-Roman traditions and tendencies which were in many senses also largely Universally Human, such as this one particular notion of similarity or comparison being a kind of spirit, a spirit in this sense as a kind of organization of ideas or aspects of limited scope or distinction.
Cities would, in the Mesopotamian mould, often be dedicated to a certain spirit or theme as well, such as Athena being the general spirit or theme of Athens and Athenians who may have been thought to thus carry attributes of Athena though they were diverse.
It may have also been believed that by looking at those born in a city and their behaviors one could learn about the activities or results of a certain idea or spirit which they represent.
The Ancient tendency was highlt holistic, but just as the brain becomes increasingly compartmentalized and the Universe stretches apart, people began to increasingly distinguish and lock things into departments and categories. Now a chair is just a chair and doesn’t refer to place or seat of or dominion or power or station.
I am of a particularly more holistic view which leads to mystical seeming speech or content which may resemble Ancient modes of connectivity or synaestheticism like synesthesia.
Which is why for me the Truth is just a synonym for God or Power or Action, everything else being truth coming from Lies and returned to Lies.
If one becomes overly absorbed by the finger, they might neglect what it points at and always points at no matter where it points.
That is a very cool thought. I was just using the medieval thing as an example and relating it to people like pagan re-constructionists who tend to limit themselves based on their own imaginations and available data rather than thinking of people and possibilities when it comes to our own practices, not about history or the study of archeology and things like that, but that when it comes to putting things to use, even the most mundane things that are often taken for granted like a wall or a smudge on the wall, it becomes irrelevant what anyone else may have thought of it but most pertinent what we could be reminded of by such or how and in what ways we Can use it.
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For example in the above video, we can concern ourselves with what Aloe Blacc may mean or intend, but we can also take more from it where it doesn’t matter what Aloe Blacc meant, for example he says a line likely to be taken for granted where he mentions Name. I can take that as a reminder of my Name theme that I have been talking about and made a thread regarding.Haha yeah! Can is a good shield too. They might find it difficult to accuse us of the terrible crime of being made insane, if we are simply saying Can. Not have to, not must. You can take it this way. It can be made to mean this. It doesn’t matter if Did, if Wasn’t, if anything else but Can. All those other things are fallacious sorts of things people obsess about.
Did the medieval person Really think this so that in my re-creation of it for myself I am restricted to just what I imagine someone in my imagination thought to make it alright for me?
I have heard and seen so many strange things and so much strange reasoning.
The world and all that is in it, the heavens and the Earth and the Reality and all the dimensions of mind and thought and toys and adventure and videos and whatever we call fake and real and bad and good are All there.
All there but what? The Key is Can. How can we use them to our advantage and benefit and enjoyment.
I can say this. I can take it to remind me of that.
Why should I worry about things I can never have? Like what a medieval person certainly thought or did? All that has any relevance is Can for opening doors and gateways and understanding things in multifaceted ways.
I guess I don’t hold any of those to be very representative of what I tend to say or think.
I don’t believe in a difference between things thought and things experienced, I think both are experiences and made of the same stuff ultimately.
I don’t believe in time or consistency, I am under the impression that history can not really be verified but can be implanted at the moment which is all we have access to, that our memories and everything are just existing now and we have no verification of anything really or way to prove it really was there a moment ago and in truth whatever we are accessing wasn’t there “as is” meaning what we are actually accessing, the vision, is unique and new and completely ours while the thing it may refer to may have no other forms except what we are apparently experiencing moment to moment.
This eliminates a few things. It eliminates a separation between man, body, environment, eliminates time, eliminates the usual definition of memory.
All it leaves is a layer called experience, which can be anything that can be seen or experienced, it for me right now is including seeing my hands typing. One moment they seem to be in one position, another they seem to be in another position, the experience of them being in a former position is gone, if it was present then that is what I would be experiencing.
These are not brought about by any power or force of my own, but a power I credit as being greater than the experience which I am, is responsible for this shifting activity.
In reality, or my delusion anyway, nothing at all is really moving. I am always in the same place, and I don’t really have any being of my own, the I or element of me which remains consistent, Experiencer, is what is generating and experiencing these experiences which give the impression of movement, space, and other people. I can not really touch them, or know them, they are just things made up as far as I am experiencing them. If they are viewing anything, it has nothing to do with what I am experiencing, and they would be in the same position as me, a completely independent and cut off screen of made up information.
There is nothing “more real” and nothing “less real” than experience. Experience is the “stuff” that we call real as well as the “stuff” we call unreal, imaginary, fake, thought of. There is no real distinction except that we way this is this and that is that, but experience is one and the only form of “stuff”.
The closest any philosophy seems to get to this is Occassionalism.
Even though I say these things and can logically reason them, I still play by the normal rules of the experience and there is not much I can do about it or anything. Knowing this is just a little bit to understand more, but is largely futile and irrelevant, except it completely changes how one views and interacts with life and interprets events.
Not believing in time or reality in the normal sense opens the mind up to an unstable and fearful world of inconsistencies and miracles. In an instant I can be disease riddled and in the next as if I have never had a disease in my life, or I can be a different person with different thoughts and remember my whole life as if I lived any of it. I could have different beliefs or be a criminal or a retard or a priest uttering falsehoods and blasphemies or having an affair. I could be sad or happy, I could remember a tragedy that just occurred or wake up and think it was just a dream. Nothing is safe, nothing is protected. There is no love or loyalty or trust, except when there is, and it can be taken away just as instantly as it was made part of an experience.
So anything good we get is a free gift, no merit of our own or credit. Anything bad we get is the same. This is why the wise are perpetually afraid but also believe they can be saved as well.
The power responsible for everything is out of control and can not be controlled but is controlling all experience, which includes all thought, all decision, all supposed causation or supposed chain of events it makes up as part of an instance or experience.
That is all we call God, whatever is ultimately responsible for this.
I reject the stars and the rocks and the planets and that the Earth is round or flat, that there is for me anything on the other side of a wall until there is, I am no person, just an experience here and there.
Great question actually. I suppose all I can in any sense create for others through description is a world of ideas, which are things too or made of things but I can’t get my things to them, I can only assume they are generating things which are at least close enough conceptually to agree upon or pretend we are understood.
Awesome, I am really pleased to hear when people are really thinking and evolving.
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