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Very true. Sad there appears little to nothing that can easily be done about it. I hate those things myself. All I ever hear from workers generally are complaints, complaints about managers bosses co workers policies threats. Its a nightmare.
That seems to be how the Buddha in Mahayana scriptures does it, asking questions which are then answered such as in the PrajnaParamita Sutra.
One day some wacky esoteric style folks said to me after some conversation that a portal has been made available and opened where I can now ask God anything and they will answer. I said I have no questions. I really didn’t. I have no interest in knowing anything really. It is all made up junk to me. What could God tell me? Well, anything. Making the conversation pointless.
If God wants me to think something or know something or feel something I will just as I always do.
Do they think anyone Fails? What a strange idea God created for them to be tortured by.
We never fail at being just the sort of beasts doing just the sort of beastly things we are doing.
So what can God tell me? What could God say that I would even believe? That God is a man? That is simply changing the meaning of the term God to something different from my definition in only some small ways. I already know everything. There is no secret. I can answer every question with God.
2+2=God
What is the purpose of life? God
What is the meaning of this dream? God
What will happen in my future? God
What happened in my past? God
Can you stop saying God? Yes, since you already did.
Will you stop saying God? Sure, if the need is sufficiently filled by you, which it can’t be, because you can’t say it for me.
Will you ever stop then? No, so long as there is anything said or done or thought or made it will be God.
What then is the Grandest of Questions? God?
What then is the humblest of answers? god
You really do know it all don’t you? It would’ve perhaps been harder to know all things if they were not one.
You are certainly a fool, because there is more than God!
Like what?
Well there are many things, like what is an Apple Tree, an Apple Tree is many things but it is not God!
You are right, it is a collection of letters, a concept, a reference to something, and it is also not God.
Aha! So you admit that All is not God.
I admit that All is Not God.
So what then is God?
God is what is Not All. I thought we just said that.
What? What IS God!
IS!
Now you are just being infuriating.
If God is not an Apple Tree then God is Not All.
Right, so what is the problem?
The problem IS you are not telling me what God IS!
That!
What!
That! You just said it as I had said it.
Said what?
God IS, IS IS, God IS IS, IS IS God.
What the f*ck is IS?
Is an Apple Tree?
Is an Apple Tree what!?
Is it?
Is an Apple Tree what? Is an Apple Tree Real?
No, Is an Apple Tree Is?
What the bloody f*ck does that mean? Yes, I guess, Apple Trees Is.
How Is Apple Tree?
What? It exists!
So God?
Huh?
An Apple Tree Is Not God therefor God IS not All. All that IS but not God. God IS but IS not All. God Exists, and an Apple Tree exists, but God is not an Apple Tree and God is not All, what do the Apple Tree and God have in common?
The Apple Tree IS, God IS. The Apple Tree Exists, God Exists. God IS not an Apple Tree thus God IS not All. So what then IS God?
Not an Apple Tree, Not All, IS and Exists, IS IS God, IS IS Existing, God IS IS, Not All, Not an Apple Tree.
Immanence?
Violence.
Are you suggesting that God is
Yes.
Wait, you interrupted, that God is
Yes.
Wait!
I am waiting.
That God is
Yes.
What the hell!
I waited until you said it.
No you didn’t, I didn’t complete my sentence. Wait until I say END. Until I say END it is not over. The sentence is not complete until I say END.
You sound like God.
Shh!
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Alright. I forgot what I was saying.
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Its ok now, its over, its gone, I have no idea what I was saying.
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What the F*ck is wrong with you now?
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Oh, END
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Same here. Also I get things easily just mentioned passingly rather than the immense difficulties involved with simply really wanting something even straightforward. For example the other day I saw some transhumanism thing at Safeway and thought oh I might like to read that. Then ended up going to a thrift store and seeing it there for a few cents or a dollar and got it. I also got a book from there called Messages From Michael about an entity called Michael saying things like me on a oujia board as well as some other books that I am already familiar with and which are important to my work such as Theogony, The Prince, and “Understanding Judaism”. From another thrift store earlier I also got Britain’s Most Notorius Hangmen on the Bedlam theme track I posted earlier to see if you would write anything on it in your free time. I don’t know where.
Mentioned that day also was “potted plants and getting potted plants” just as a passing thing and looking at the little nearby garden. At the end of the day there were two potted plants sitting on top of the trash at the train station. Picked those up and brought them home. Merilly, Merrily, Mirily, Merryly, life is but a dream.
I really enjoy this topic.
Crowley had many psychological and interesting takes on things in his convincing apologetics to make the people interested not feel so wacky about what they are doing perhaps but doing so is really taking a knife to the throat of a living thing and killing it.
I like his writing and explanations as well but I don’t even think he necessarily believed them himself, similar to Anton LaVey possibly and others. All we find out by such efforts is that they still believe in people, so that they need to try to convince them of things no matter what it takes, such as saying things which sound reasonable even if they are invented as products simply to fit some need such as “being rational” or “explaining what you like to do”. Maybe he did believe it, but I get the feeling that the amount of what he did was not really consistent with that explanation an certainly isn’t for me.I can never really say that any of this is for me psychological or realistic in the way people tend to use the term. So much mystical stuff is constant in my life that it literally appears to be some sort of dream and the furthest thing from sane or stable. Things just appear before me, messages are repeated from everywhere, humans are used like tools and simply do exactly like they are nothing themselves nor appear to be independent at all.
I was just sitting and hearing someone bring up Azazel and the movie about a transferring demon with Denzel Washington and then the song from that movie and theme was brought up and he says “Tiiiime is on my siiide” then a guy right outside my window was singing that. Another time I was looking for a song and the person outside the window that moment is singing it.
So my looney tune ideas stem from my reality too. I don’t say crap that just sounds nice to me because I want to. I very literally believe everyone is a soulless slave of the power and all messenger types seem to be tested and tempted with an offer to speak lies just to say what people might believe and want to hear.
When you don’t do it, you don’t get anything but kicked in the arse and ridiculed and tortured and little kids run around mocking you, it even happens in the Bible just before the bears incident.
So definitely not a world of preference in the least, nor one which I am pleased with or in agreement with. If I could say no to it, I would and I do. Even typing these words and deleting these stupid repetitions and then it places a period where something repeated was deleted are all just horribly sh*tty things to do to me.
Like Job though, I try to continuously say what to me seems most true and right, not to convince those who in an instant can all be made to say yes yes, but to speak and utter only the truth. I hate the truth, and I wish it weren’t so, but that is what I try to do, compulsively, unwillingly, stupidly, hatefully.
I don’t think Crowley was doing that or like that. I think he believed in wackier stuff and had certain interests but dishonestly provided to people he was deceived by with lame excuses.
When you know everyone very literally as God and yourself, you have no need to lie for the most part and can be entirely sincere. Who the f*ck are we fooling or trying to fool afterall? Only ourselves are being fooled if we make an effort to mislead or deceive or slowly take people through false stages and build up through language and rhetoric a false world.
My artworks include my writing here, its all raging and its purpose is only to shout in screaming pain. I don’t talk about anything, I don’t try to tell people anything, I am like a dog’s chew toy being pierced and pressured by the SHIN and squeeking. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_(letter)
So what was Crowley? I don’t know, but he seems to have been a chubbyish bisexual with eccentric interests coupled with boredom who wanted to make up some stuff and do some things and justify them.
In that sense, his definition might indeed reflect more of his personality, since he made up stuff after the fact of simply wanting to do things. His desires seemed to justify the means and the ends, perhaps in some ways like a psychopath. Explanations put on top to explain to the grand Mummy of Shaming why indeed the pot was broken or his lusts were followed.
I like psychology and psycho-analysis even, and science even, and even Crowley, and even eveness, Evanescence even, but I can’t approve of this sort of irritating Christian or Jewish sort of behavior. Also it isn’t auto-correct, it seems to just plug in an earlier word or some random punctuation or switch things around lol.
Anyway though there appeared to be no lag in writing this out though or at least nothing like it was before, not even comparable.
Crowley has not assisted me much. His fans on the disgusting LASHTAL website are annoying bastards. All that they seem to take from it is the tendency to try to boringly rationalize things and imitate his “realism” which to me is never anything but the facade of madmen.
I’m the real deal. A real looney tune. I don’t mask anything because I am in far too much pain to give a sh*t if someone whose skull I’d want crushed doesn’t nod in agreement with me. They are just puppets and slaves like me. I also don’t believe my interests or desires are my own or hold any priority or value. I live in a world of aimless fecal matter unhappily and scrounge around eating and kicking sh*t because there is nothing more noble to do.
If Aleister was like me, he might have lived a happier life, being friendless and unloved and furthest from admiration. Aleister Crowley is beloved and respected by many intelligent people past and today supposedly. I too like him, but if I ever met him, out of us both I am certainly the most or more real.
The comparison is important. A real exposed mystic and a masked horny dude. Psychology was very new and to say things with this new science like how New Age people keep saying Quantum over and over again or Atoms or whatever just to sound convincing about wanting to dance around naked smells a bit cowardly to me. It says more about the world they live in than it says about the reality and does not act in my view as reflective of their real beliefs or thoughts or in accordance with their actions. They are lying.
Lies can be true as well, when they are things which are inspiring or wise but not representative of what the person really thinks or intends.
Crowley has by formalizing many things in certainways become a stumbling block to the mystic reality and entry into the haunted world realization. That is what you get for trying.
I think its silly and doesn’t represent what I consider to be magical which is generally and even ultimately unintentional and an accident of circumstances, dependent and beyond actual will or control and determination at the highest and in the most immediate sense.
Magic with any other definition itself becomes a meaningless word, but only appears
without sense or reference when taken in a more encompassing way.There is nothing which is not magical and there is nothing which is truly purposeful or intentional.
All these things operate via dependencies which were intrinsic and not established but existing and are run by Free Will also known as Chance which is Unconditioned and has no reference so baselessly generates whatever it does and can’t think of anything except what pops in.
Not too dissimilar from our thoughts seemingly coming from ultimately nowhere and referring only to Nothing besides other things which refer to the same.
In other words, what God does is not thinking or intending which requires the pre-existence of objects to aim at. There are no such objects and so sporadic generation was due to the Pre-existence or eternity of Magic, the One Power, who came with the ability to Generate, the drive to Generate, and the ability to Choose between doing this or that or not this or that in order that specific generation or any generation can occur.
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Crowley likely would have understood these things and has lots of great content but was still apparently influenced heavily by the thinking of the period in Britain and Germany up until that point which had moved towards Atheism but stemmed from a mixture of Deist humanistic rationale and Dreamy Semi-Literalism of an interest in the Greco-Roman classics and mythology understood in a Protestant and modern Western sort of fashion.Trying to put these two together, one comes up with the Edwardian yearnings of Crowley who afterall simply wanted to have a bit of fun but was still pressured to justify this desire or interest with reasoning and explanation.
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At the end of the day, in my view, Crowley’s overall project was less honest or sincere than mine. You are either detached from the force in your writings or the force in action through the writings. To be one with the force one only needs to acknowledge the truth of the desires they see or experience.
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Crowley got away with as much as he felt he needed to but in my view was not a sincere devotee of thought or an honest thinker. One who tries to explain what they are doing or wanting is not the same as one who has an explanation for what they do or want. In the attempt of apologetics rather than clarification one iften falls into forms of dishonesty.
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The truth needs no apology and is recognized by its very appearance or immanence and force or violence.
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The face of God is Fury. Nothing but Rage can be the manifestation of Truth or Creation. Everything is a mask upon writhing invisible agitation.
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Thank you for bringing this up though. I’m glad for what I wrote in response to it.Excellent and yeah I really liked the post by Rubsy.
The best way to deal with the people is to enslave them just as one would a beast, so long as this enslavement does not cause the deterioration or loss of great minds. So then education is important, in order to try to cultivate the great minds and separate them from those best enslaved for their unwillingness to express themselves. That is the more lenient position as compared to killing them off as a major obstruction. There is in my view practically no chance of the same patterns not developing repeatedly. Life remains a struggle to survive and think and express and avoid the vile gaze of the people and the tyrrany of work and aimless selfless labor for the state or society.The ideal state is a complete solitary unit, a singular immortal and utterly efficient person who has less needs and can focus on creation, a God in the thoughts of common people.
“The best way to deal with the people is to enslave them just as one would a beast”
Seriously??
Wasn’t that already a tried method done in the 18th and 19th centuries in the Old and New Worlds?
Care to share with us how well that turned out for the slaves?
Would you like to share with us the facts on how many slaves were killed by their masters through disease or torture?North Korea dictatorial government for all intents and purposes is doing the same thing to their own people and how is that working out for those people?
So your logic is tragically flawed and is in serious need of re-thinking of this whole approach.
Hi! It isn’t tragically flawed because it is a process of thinking and you reacted correctly albeit a little unpleasantly.
The purpose for these radical statements is to bring to mind certain truth which lead us back to solutions. Things that may come to mind are “whose to decide what is good for me?” this is why I call these things thought programs.
I am a radical, and my intentions are generally to manipulate people into becoming radicals like me.
One such method of manipulation is to make true statements that lead to certain reactions or results.
For example, the word enslavement brought slaves to your mind and concerns of being enslaved. If you take it further, you will find my points repeated internally as a reaction, for example “animals want to dominate and not be dominated” and “I don’t want to be a slave, I want to be free or on top” and “I will have to fight to survive and fight off other dominating attempts by animals” which is an attempt to craft you into exactly what I would like you to be, a person radically opposed to being dominated or a person who allows themselves to be dominated. If you choose the first then we can move in that direction and moulding you into a further weapon of the cause. If you choose the latter we will further make you into a good and efficient slave.
It is impossible to escape well laid and flexible plans.
So if you have chosen the path of the fighter, why does one who is supposedly averse from slavery sit by and watch people slave away and serve them? At the local stores for example. Or is it that you don’t really object to the suffering plight of the people but mainly don’t want to be threatened by the prospect of being deemed unworthy and thus enslaved? Is that not what most have been deemed and what has already happened?
Serpius, my posts are not what they might seem, they require deep thonking and serious introspection. Like I have said before, I can use far fewer words or no words at all if my intention was merely to convince you that I am an idiot with no sense.
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Don’t think, Thonk.I will get to that as soon as I can. Today I may get a card for my phone to make space for more files.
I am in Canada. What are some ways I can avoid working and make enough money to survive with a partner as you do and focus on creative things?
@”kFoyauextlH” what do you mean by weird?Serpius does cut his quotes down so that the quotes don’t completely fill each post.
Yes. I was pleased by that. I didn’t like when people used to re-quote huge things, it often seemed like a form of trolling, so this cut down was appreciated though its likely they could have skipped commenting altogether as it is doubtful they read the whole thing before leaving their comment based on guesswork of what the post might have said rather than what it did say. This is a common and irritating trend on forums: responding based on guesses regarding content.
Weird has a few interesting meanings. Originally it referred to something divine, uncanny, like a miraculous instance of fate or hapenstance, and in many ways it is still used that way when people say “well that was weird”. In the other more common sense that it is used today, it also seems to refer to something unusual or unexpected happening, something odd or unlike other things which are more common.
So if one takes a survey of ancient myths and cultural religions and writings, there certainly are some difficult seeming stories which otherwise appear to be clear metaphors for natural things, as the things named, and often left untranslated by current people, are clearly words for natural phenomena or concepts.
In the case of Christianity though, as seemingly understood by the populace, the symbolic aspects seemed to be obscured to the point of becoming almost unavailable to the lay public and Jesus was rather quickly or from the get go imagined to be a human being incarnation of God, which is not entirely unusual at this point and would have been rather typical except for all the nuanced theological distinctions made leading to the popular understandings above, being accepted or enforced internationally among a huge population of people made the popular understanding of Christian theology highly atypical and strange, since before then people had rather straightforward, albeit odd, stories and symbolic myths, but now here was a popular and massive religion enforcing novel absurdities which the people could likely comprehend even less, such as a son being a father to himself, the killing of an innocent and the killing of God forgiving all sins but not except based on belief in said killing occurring, and many other really strange and far from straightforward ideas.
It is imperative for the intellectuals and artists to avoid labor as much as possible which is not towards their own growth. To hell with society if it is living for nothing and unable to generate anything but utilities and services for the sake of utilities and services to be provided in some circular system which leads to no intellectual growth or freedom of thought and increased insight or enjoyment for individuals. A system which is forcing Whisper to do anything other than flourish and express is a death machine.
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If it weren’t for Serpius, we might all be rather like-minded. I think Serpius contributes the most to this website by bringing in the views of the common man. We should not work to change his views too quickly, nor are we likely to be able to, but should use them as a great counter-point to our own and as a means to examine a representative mind of the people.If it is the people we are ever wishing to communicate with (and generally I wish never to know the people or them to know me) then a representation of their thinking processes is a definite boon to this website and should be encouraged and cultivated, so long as it is not allowed to fall into the usual thuggish suppression and insulting that “the people” tend towards and is kept mainly to this one user and their wonderful thoughts and demonstrations. When studying a bacteria for example, its best to keep the sample contained and limited and controlled.
This website should be a place where individuals are encouraged to very freely express themselves without much work going into suppression or conversion efforts until at least a good degree of the mentalities have been demonstrated and become recorded on the website.
The fault of Socialism and Communism, Guns, and just about every issue of debate are the people and almost always the people.
The best way to deal with the people is to enslave them just as one would a beast, so long as this enslavement does not cause the deterioration or loss of great minds. So then education is important, in order to try to cultivate the great minds and separate them from those best enslaved for their unwillingness to express themselves. That is the more lenient position as compared to killing them off as a major obstruction. There is in my view practically no chance of the same patterns not developing repeatedly. Life remains a struggle to survive and think and express and avoid the vile gaze of the people and the tyrrany of work and aimless selfless labor for the state or society.
The ideal state is a complete solitary unit, a singular immortal and utterly efficient person who has less needs and can focus on creation, a God in the thoughts of common people.
To become a God is the goal of all the wisest as much as possible. To become a God is a drive in all animals. To be well fed, safe, dominant, unchallenged and unthreatened, far from competition, with every whim and desire met preferably with ease and without pain or struggle or difficulty.
The life of man and animal and plant-kind is the furthest and most unlike God, the opposite, and objecting to the system is objecting to God and Nature and the Kings and the typical Order.
Those who do not reject the system and are not at war with it at least in their hearts are its helpers and our enemies so long as they support any efforts against our work and working to become those things I mentioned all animals wanting.
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My posts tend to skip the nitty gritty and go for grander underlying themes so they may seem lacking in particular nuanced discussions like tax plans and little bandages for a gaping wound or a severed head and a mindless abnormally living body that continues its writhing mindlessly. The best help isn’t in policy but in hacks and shortcuts and tricks to cheat the monster and live off the beast like a leech just trying to breathe another day to think just a little longer.Absolutely not Serpius. Its a meditation. I am Christian. The furthest thing from Narrow-minded as well. Maybe there is someone who can attest to that? Probably not. No one tends to understand the points of these things. They tend to only see the surface or face and don’t really give it the time of day but thank you for not quoting the whole thing. Hopefully you read more than the portion quoted though you probably wouldn’t need to since it would likely not be processed in any worthwhile or beneficial way. I’m willing to discuss though. You will find no one quite as religious as me on this website probably but I tend towards the radical and mystical which is why you might find some of these programs odd or counter-intuitive seeming and difficult to read or process.
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If it were my intention to simply communicate that I am a closed minded or narrow minded bigot and “prick” I could likely do so in fewer words. Yet that whole program above has its underlying purpose and each sentence made up of words becoming paragraphs that I painstakingly typed on my phone has a purpose and its purpose is not to make people into atheists or to glorify militant atheism. One can potentially gain quite a bit from being very careful and attentive to my writing but when taken for granted or just on the surface it goes very badly. You can check out any of my interactions on numerous forums to see repeated incidents of knee-jerk reactions to the face of the writing. If it is of no interest of you to think or you assume I am lying or trolling or bluffing, those are some of the many common charges layed against me regularly. Some say I am a woman, some say a man, some say an atheist, some say a theist. My messages remain consistent though and I am always happy to explain how I am and what I am and how I am not and what I am not.Wow. Will you post the video as well when it is ready?
Haha, me? I do find it really fascinating and pretty completely weird and that its mainstream understanding or party lines are so strange compared to some other religions which are far less broadly established. The 1234 thing is strange because I sent a testing 1234 message to 4 moderators once to test something.
Pots of the future! Our stuff in a museum, we seem to have so much stuff and its rapidly multiplying like never before. There was less of everything or anything in the 70s for example. Its becoming really radical and trends are also quickly shifting and major technologies. My issues with pots are generally weight and maintaining or cleaning them and space. I really feel like I have too much stuff for the size of place I am in. The pots and pans and whatever seem to take lots of space too. They have barely provided any cabinets there are 2 drawers in the whole place. I am looking to buy pots of vertical space assistance and places to put things while getting rid of a great deal of books and large items and clothes if possible. I am going to get a bed that is lifted high to regain the space under it as well.
If one looks at medieval art, some appears sparse, some appears filled with stuff (often with coded meaning). It is highly unlikely that they had the ability to acquire and collect as much stuff as easily as we can today nor had a place to store it. Sometimes owning certain items which seem simple to us now had prestige attached to it as well or indicated things about one’s desired status. Often the poorer people might try to get hold of something that appears to them to be of great value whereas a person without such complexes regarding their status might be willing to experiment with new things that seem to have not yet acquired a reputation.
I also largely research the same general period of history and the ideas from that time are of extreme interest to me, particularly how they manifest in materials and material practices and the themes that are selected or appear associated with various forms of utilitarian or pragmatic art. For example, what might lead to the selection of a certain design element or the addition of certain imagery or embellishment to a piece and what those symbols may have conjured in a medieval or early modern imagination. Right now, even on this phone but also in my own personal collection of books I have numerous books revolving around these topics.
To some people they might just see it and say “Oh, pottery, alright”, but this is so much of a more profound thing when understood as a manifestation of conscious and unconcious organization of resources by an organism which may carry information regarding its thinking, environment, and culture which is not otherwise directly comprehensible or available to us except as encapsulated in these forms, designs, and choices which resulted in these pieces.
There is so much to think about in any expression, but the first step would be for anyone who wants a more vivid view of the world to appreciate all such organizing and productive efforts as expressive and informative even if appearing deliberately or exclusively pragmatic or utilitarian or otherwise unembellished.
In narrowly categorizing some things as art and some things as tools and some things as meaningful and some things as unmeaningful one misses out on a great degree of potentially inspiring and interesting, as well as useful, information. -
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