[kFoyauextlH]

Very awesome and meaningful for me, thank you so much for posting all that!

[kFoyauextlH]

Very excellent posts and I love the language, mummified in matter, so cool!

I think a great thought experiment is the one you suggested, keep simulating imagining cutting off body parts and sensory. Its also part of a thought experiment where there is a clone sent to Mars or something an exact duplicate. In all these thought experiments it leads one to at least feel there is something else that is the real “me” since one feels that in the destruction of their original body a duplicate clone wouldn’t cut it or possess the experiencer, the one seeing. For example, without killing the first one, creating a duplicate while one is alive wouldn’t be me, the thing seeing would be cut off from that body.

[kFoyauextlH]

“Yeah, I felt the same way, I liked some of the ideas even though they seem largely from a comic book called The Darkness, and his bravado and confidence about it even though he shows no evidence which would be simple to show and deny. Besides all that, he is stuck in a very specific and narrow minded mindset. When I write about 6 forms of manifestation, those are literal things I am discussing which don’t require any discussions going into weird stuff even. Literally it has to do with just thinking what are the various ways a person can satisfy an experience. If one reads old accounts of these things though, even when the accounts are trying to be spooky, it appears the people are just falling into some of the 6 categories and nothing like what this guy is describing was ever even mentioned by anyone. Those old accounts and testimobies I believe have much truth in them regarding the phenomenon that was experienced by the werewolves and the witnesses, which was even in old superstitious accounts falling in some of the 6 categories, mainly category 4 and 5 and possibly 3 thrown in from the perspective of the werewolf. 5 would be something like equipment, which was typically a girdle, and they would smear a hallucinagenic substance as well it is supposed which was mixed with ash or charcoal or something for faster absorption of the mixture into the skin, they would also appear scary and camouflaged looking and in other cases they may have worn elements and costumes and adjustments like that which all count as technological adaptions.

Even his whole “Shadow” business from The Darkness comic book would basically count as a category 5 or 6 basically.

​​​​The rituals involved can be tested, and for many people these supposedly work, likely due to a propensity for hallucination or in other words a joke being played on them one way or another since the framework it is based on is basically unfounded, false, and even offensive to a person educated in these things and their meanings. Even though I say all that, I have interrogated and questioned numerous people with a variety of odd experiences, and have had weird experiences myself, so it appears that even the silliest sort of experiences or methods are possible but their belief in how they came about is where they may be getting a bit deluded or tricked into believing in a system which doesn’t really exist consistently or at all. Furthermore, he was vague and didn’t really provide detail about how exactly he witnessed whatever he witnessed concerning evocation, as most modern Occultists and Witches also do, because of being shy about it being recognized or accused as something in the imagination, unable to record it or see it, though insisted upon as true, and again it is true but their shyness and exaggerations are the problem, they secretly believe that things they imagine will be seen as invalid and called invalid and likewise they likely harbor the same belief as well. Their solution has traditionally been to speak half-heartedly about “many paths” and everyone being valid and imagining their own things while not really believing that, yet they are unlikely to question in their hearts the boiling temperature of water or things they view as “actually real”. When I read the writings of Occultists and Witches and many others, sometimes even Ancient writings carrying the ideas and words of what seem to be the same sorts of people and thinking, the silliness and dishonesty rubs me the wrong way.

The sole Power can bring about any transformation of experience and does so anyway in every case, any system it can make appear to one or even all as valid and wholly believed counter to any current logic, and those names he took as a variety are only names for the same One, any “Mobloch” is always ultimately The One Power controlling and manipulating it even if it is a human being standing there calling themselves “Mobloch” which is annoying because of the b in the middle there unecessarily transforming the name “Moloch” just to let us know he likes to be different and some other things.

A whole delusion can be set over people, complete with detailed explanations, but all these are, like the boiling temperature of water, just what is being imposed upon our experience this moment. Figuring out what you really want and appealing to God one way or another for it, is an age old practice, and this is what all that he wrote basically points to or amounts to with lots of effort and distraction and confusion thrown in.

Yet, we currently don’t doubt a few things which we feel in control of and which are al considered “real” today, and others who are part of our experience also tend to agree:

That they can adjust or control how they think about things 1. Cognitive, Psychological, Philosophical Transformation

That they can easily and fluidly adjust and control their imagination and imaginary simulated mental space or experiences in their active imagination 2. The Mental or Imaginary Space

That they can mix the mental and visible or physical experience in order to actively superimpose or coordinate mental activities and imagined things with what is considered more “real” like imagining claws on top of your hands or a tentacles coming out of you, that is mixing the mental imagery with the physical reality you are standing in, it is a transformation of active experience, experience is all you are ever dealing with. 3. The Superimposed (Ghost)

Now for the realm most people consider the “really real” or “legitimate” reality, which is just how you look and what you see, the physical objects and your physical body. If people do exercises their bodies change or if they modify themselves via surgery or whatever it can all be seen by everyone who claims to see and has nothing to do with the other 3.
4. The Physical and Basic Environment. (Mundane, Man)

The next area is putting things upon yourself or in yourself which were formerly external or not typically considered originally a part of you, clothes, costumes, weapons, machinery, piercings, tattoos, all of these can be considered technological adaptions from the simplest to the most complex. One can using technologies completely physically transform their appearance and experience. You pick up and adopt and transform through technologies, machineries, craft and artifice. Many people hold this as “real but not as real as the organic or natural”. 5. The Technological Path (Asura, acquiring gain, thus associated with greed)

Finally, the transformation considered “the most real” which is just a strange prejudice people seem to have, is the change of Nature, through things like genetic manipulation, biology, viruses, or other means whereby the experience and the self-associated form is changed via growth, internal shifts, whatever, making them a born monster or changed mutant via mutation and mutagenic experiences applied to them and their bodies but not via surgeries or exercises which transform the base physical (number 3 which would include trans-sexual surgeries for example) but not the genetic necessarily which would be this. This is where a person is bodily and wholly naturally and genetically is transformed organically and biologically, and is also within the realm of possibility and may become a designer norm predicted for the future, with people changing genes for fashion concerns and aesthetic reasons. 6. The Natural (Daeva)”

[kFoyauextlH]

Beautiful! Please keep going all of you! I really enjoy this subject and wrote about it or asked about it as FreedomStands on LunaticOutpost and tried to lead conversations there on Wizard Forums at times but also wrote some emails regarding it on accounts I can’t access right now which thoroughly discuss the issue since I was being asked by people how they might go about doing this which I felt required elucidation on the elements involved. Please keep going on the topic in detail! I would also like to see some experimental thinking and pushing and grasping if possible.

[kFoyauextlH]

Will do! Thank you!

[kFoyauextlH]

Awesome! I am an utterly convinced fanatic, luckily my belief is so open ended and encompassing that everything is opened and explanable by it rather than narrow beliefs or very specific detailed mechanisms or ordered operations, it is simply The Power, and The Experience or Information it generates and destroys freely, so that anything can happen or be experienced or be entirely convincing or not, the world could be made to agree in a second or all go mad in our experience, its all easy and we are left helpless and afraid while aware but empowered in some sense by the knowledge of Chaos Uncontrollable.

[kFoyauextlH]

I am constantly in various meditative states, which many people use the term to mean “not thinking” or “relaxing” but originally it was a word used for “thinking” and “thoughtfully pondering” all of which I do, including meditative exercises which can include the often unrecognized “writing and posting and answering” to more involved bodily movements from walking, to dancing, to worship acts or even showering.

I practice extremes in thinking, “hell meditations” or simulations, inoculations, calculations, logic maps, possibility paths, all sorts of things, even organizing things, prioritizing, ordering, categorizing, negations, essentials rediscovered, building from the ground up, abandon and release, masturbation, you name it lol and I name it. Following clues, reading.

For the particular physical worship practice, it is actually quite ancient and universal for humans though is now not so popular, and was practiced regularly from Japan to the Americas, the whole world of humans.

Anyway regardless of the beliefs involved specifically, Buddhists, Hindus, Tibetans, Ancient Europeans and Africans and Egyptians and Sumerians and Persians and Chinese and Japanese all would wash themselves and keep themselves hygenic as this seemed to be very important to people, to always be clean and bathed and have washed orifices.

They would ablute themselves with water, making sure they are clean, rubbing their heads and faces with water, their hands up to their elbows, their feet up to their ankles, basically the exposed extremities and after symbolically and physically purifying their bodies, at certain points of the day as measured by the positions of the sun typically or other factors, they would go to some set aside area or set aside a space by laying down a mat or sweeping it or going to this clean space, sometimes in nature, and sometimes it would be considered special after their activity there or its use, and stand.

The typical positions were standing, bowing, kneeling, and prostrating in the kowtow form with knees bent and hands and forehead and perhaps nose at times to the ground. This in Buddhism is also considered an extremely important posture and meditative act and the highest form of physical meditative exercise some have seemed to say. In any case, it was performed by Pagans and Christians alike across the entire world as the symbol for submission, surrender, obedience, and worship. Ultimately in all cases it was supposed to be towards what is considered The Real or the Reality, what controls or moves experience and Nature or Life itself, the Power.

They would typically repeat this, generally accompanied by praises, prayers, thoughts, ponderings, and whatever else may occur to them of any sort, sometimes with a divinatory or oracular function as well for inspiring things or reminding one of things while reciting or repeating things and being perhaps in a mild relaxing trance due to the motions, the repititions, the light and darkness shifts even with eyes closed or opened between standing and the darkness in prostration and the shifts between being upright and high and down and low to the ground and humbled which all reflects the nature of experience and life as we know it.

After this, they would stop, or if in the companies of others wish them peace and affirm solidarity and go about their business and normal activities in the day.

The standing position was typically accompanied by the hands being placed or locked over the area between the chest and belly as seen in Sumerian Worship statues as a symbol of obedience and humility and respectfulness and restraint and self-control.

When praying or making appeals it was common for people to lift up their hands as if cupping water or offering something.
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http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerstatues.jpg
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https://mdw-ntr.com/images/stories/muslimprayerfromkemet.jpg
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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/21/2d/11/212d11509ee087047ad34136176d50f7.jpg here you can see the areas that are typically washed as exposed and the appeal posture with hands raised and cupped.

[kFoyauextlH]

” Yeah, I felt the same way, I liked some of the ideas even though they seem largely from a comic book called The Darkness, and his bravado and confidence about it even though he shows no evidence which would be simple to show and deny. Besides all that, he is stuck in a very specific and narrow minded mindset. When I write about 6 forms of manifestation, those are literal things I am discussing which don’t require any discussions going into weird stuff even. Literally it has to do with just thinking what are the various ways a person can satisfy an experience. If one reads old accounts of these things though, even when the accounts are trying to be spooky, it appears the people are just falling into some of the 6 categories and nothing like what this guy is describing was ever even mentioned by anyone. Those old accounts and testimobies I believe have much truth in them regarding the phenomenon that was experienced by the werewolves and the witnesses, which was even in old superstitious accounts falling in some of the 6 categories, mainly category 4 and 5 and possibly 3 thrown in from the perspective of the werewolf. 5 would be something like equipment, which was typically a girdle, and they would smear a hallucinagenic substance as well it is supposed which was mixed with ash or charcoal or something for faster absorption of the mixture into the skin, they would also appear scary and camouflaged looking and in other cases they may have worn elements and costumes and adjustments like that which all count as technological adaptions.

Even his whole “Shadow” business from The Darkness comic book would basically count as a category 5 or 6 basically.

​​​​The rituals involved can be tested, and for many people these supposedly work, likely due to a propensity for hallucination or in other words a joke being played on them one way or another since the framework it is based on is basically unfounded, false, and even offensive to a person educated in these things and their meanings. Even though I say all that, I have interrogated and questioned numerous people with a variety of odd experiences, and have had weird experiences myself, so it appears that even the silliest sort of experiences or methods are possible but their belief in how they came about is where they may be getting a bit deluded or tricked into believing in a system which doesn’t really exist consistently or at all. Furthermore, he was vague and didn’t really provide detail about how exactly he witnessed whatever he witnessed concerning evocation, as most modern Occultists and Witches also do, because of being shy about it being recognized or accused as something in the imagination, unable to record it or see it, though insisted upon as true, and again it is true but their shyness and exaggerations are the problem, they secretly believe that things they imagine will be seen as invalid and called invalid and likewise they likely harbor the same belief as well. Their solution has traditionally been to speak half-heartedly about “many paths” and everyone being valid and imagining their own things while not really believing that, yet they are unlikely to question in their hearts the boiling temperature of water or things they view as “actually real”. When I read the writings of Occultists and Witches and many others, sometimes even Ancient writings carrying the ideas and words of what seem to be the same sorts of people and thinking, the silliness and dishonesty rubs me the wrong way.

The sole Power can bring about any transformation of experience and does so anyway in every case, any system it can make appear to one or even all as valid and wholly believed counter to any current logic, and those names he took as a variety are only names for the same One, any “Mobloch” is always ultimately The One Power controlling and manipulating it even if it is a human being standing there calling themselves “Mobloch” which is annoying because of the b in the middle there unecessarily transforming the name “Moloch” just to let us know he likes to be different and some other things.

A whole delusion can be set over people, complete with detailed explanations, but all these are, like the boiling temperature of water, just what is being imposed upon our experience this moment. Figuring out what you really want and appealing to God one way or another for it, is an age old practice, and this is what all that he wrote basically points to or amounts to with lots of effort and distraction and confusion thrown in.

Yet, we currently don’t doubt a few things which we feel in control of and which are al considered “real” today, and others who are part of our experience also tend to agree:

That they can adjust or control how they think about things 1. Cognitive, Psychological, Philosophical Transformation

That they can easily and fluidly adjust and control their imagination and imaginary simulated mental space or experiences in their active imagination 2. The Mental or Imaginary Space

That they can mix the mental and visible or physical experience in order to actively superimpose or coordinate mental activities and imagined things with what is considered more “real” like imagining claws on top of your hands or a tentacles coming out of you, that is mixing the mental imagery with the physical reality you are standing in, it is a transformation of active experience, experience is all you are ever dealing with. 3. The Superimposed (Ghost)

Now for the realm most people consider the “really real” or “legitimate” reality, which is just how you look and what you see, the physical objects and your physical body. If people do exercises their bodies change or if they modify themselves via surgery or whatever it can all be seen by everyone who claims to see and has nothing to do with the other 3.
4. The Physical and Basic Environment. (Mundane, Man)

The next area is putting things upon yourself or in yourself which were formerly external or not typically considered originally a part of you, clothes, costumes, weapons, machinery, piercings, tattoos, all of these can be considered technological adaptions from the simplest to the most complex. One can using technologies completely physically transform their appearance and experience. You pick up and adopt and transform through technologies, machineries, craft and artifice. Many people hold this as “real but not as real as the organic or natural”. 5. The Technological Path (Asura, acquiring gain, thus associated with greed)

Finally, the transformation considered “the most real” which is just a strange prejudice people seem to have, is the change of Nature, through things like genetic manipulation, biology, viruses, or other means whereby the experience and the self-associated form is changed via growth, internal shifts, whatever, making them a born monster or changed mutant via mutation and mutagenic experiences applied to them and their bodies but not via surgeries or exercises which transform the base physical (number 3 which would include trans-sexual surgeries for example) but not the genetic necessarily which would be this. This is where a person is bodily and wholly naturally and genetically is transformed organically and biologically, and is also within the realm of possibility and may become a designer norm predicted for the future, with people changing genes for fashion concerns and aesthetic reasons. 6. The Natural (Daeva)”

[kFoyauextlH]

Could you change the name of this thread to “All About Amon Nahum Amen Amun” or something? It connects to some clues and themes in other threads but if you want to leave the name or whatever its fine, if you wanted it shorter it could just be Amon.

[kFoyauextlH]

Another beautiful work of art! Thank you very much for posting that!

You may be interested in the self-developed ideas of this person here at a link I will provide:

http://iamthatiam.boards.net

He said he had something like a light come to him and inspire him on this journey.

He is pretty much all alone on there and not very successful with the promotion of his ideas overall.

[kFoyauextlH]

Absolutely, right again, the triangle itself can represent enclosure and ordering through the way things are interpreted and spoken about and the limitations of a particular language imposed which like in 1984 deletes entire words and concepts.

I think you’re really getting the vibe of this all, but the most personally important factor is how we too are Britons as I have described, that we act within the same constraints and promote the same ultimate agenda even by the simple use of the language and how we are completely hypnotized by the Eye and see through it in its particular fashion of ordering elements.
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Triangulating and a pointed structure.
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http://tattoothinktank.blogspot.ca/2013/10/russell-brand-and-his-tattoos.html?m=1

[kFoyauextlH]

Yes, totally, I look forward to more detail from you regarding this whenever possible!

[kFoyauextlH]

Great posts you both! I really enjoyed Rubsy’s commentary and ideas and the statements by Socrates are very true!

[kFoyauextlH]

You can post that pdf file here if you want to, this forum supports file posting I think.

I read it. I believe anything can work or appear to work or any sort of experience can be given to people but that approach is not a totally solid or logic based one, it deals with basically being ultimately deceived into some particular system and repeatedly claims or threatens consequences and offers no real proof or assurances, of anything or validation or even justifications.

I liked some of the ideas in it but the rituals and ideas presented in it appeared to me to be typical of the sorts of people in the modern Witchy and Occult communities who are to me infuriating with their uneducated opinions and spreading of misinformation.

The individual who wrote the document may not be lying for money, but says several strangely contradicting things, uses lots of pseudo-scientific jargon, offers no evidence for anything including any of the ideas or descriptions of how these evocations appear (probably because of being shy of seeming silly or accused of just hallucination and confirmation bias), or any explanation for the superstitious rituals and the ideas in them.

With all that being said, I believe in people who testify to their prayers being answered or strange experiences in their lives but the things he said were pretty limiting and he provided no solid approaches or references to anything that has been clearly established. His talking about energy, third eyes, astral realms and bodies are all without clarification or proof and simply expected to be believed or existing but not to be considered imagination in every case. His overall cowardice is also of concern. He can easily provide photographs or video and claim they are fake if he fears survival but he instead excuses himself from anything solid or solid steps dealing with solid things.
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That is not to say you wouldn’t potentially experience some miraculous things using his or any other system, but the things I recvomend and write about are essentially different and do not talk about what is supposedly real, but what is real and how to make or work towards what you want and the various ways things are considered real by most people.
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Also I was annoyed by his statements regarding Sargon of Akkad and the Akkadian Empire and talk of “Mobloch” and that “Mobloch was considered bad and his priests killed him” or whatever. Moloch is Malak, an epithet for God, and a normal reference and there is apparently no record of any such killing by priests over such a thing when it was perfectly fine to worship such things in the Akkadian religion which the Jews in the Bible had brought into disrepute. The Akkadian Empire was a successful Empire while it lasted before a suggested event of climate change led to their losing some control. They were taken on by other Semitic Language Speaking Empires and People until the Persian Empire and then the Semitic speaking Arab Empire.

The document uses lots of typical Jewish Angelology terminology and was just a hodge podge of modern Occult ideas that are in popular use which are likewise often uses stupidly and falsely and which I also deeply resent and hate.
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Even so, I am very glad to have been sent the document and to have read what I did of it, and to have it in my collection of documents on my phone.

[kFoyauextlH]

I think humans, like cats, are less stressed without the company of and interference of other cats or other humans or whatever. Anarchy to me represents mostly leaving me alone and staying out of my business and face and not bothering me and socialism to me means or should mean free cookies without work on my part but maybe that could be called Beneficence or Grace or something.

I mainly am afraid of being bothered, “Hell is other people”, and being pressured or forced to labor for other than myself or towards my interests or goals or to have to serve people in some way to survive.

My only problem with anythinaccellerationistionisn lol phone is crazy, is that. Technology already being junk and people getting in my face and trying to make my life even worse.

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